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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: Upgrade overwriting custom vrs settings and users
« Last Post by Admin on January 24, 2021, 12:12:26 pm »
Fix to this will be pushed out shortly

OGN-R PilotAware / Re: Upgrade overwriting custom vrs settings and users
« Last Post by Admin on January 21, 2021, 06:31:13 pm »
Hi All,

We are looking at how to easily backup / restore the Users.sqb data, so that it does not get reset during an update.
What we are trying to ensure more than anything is that we don't end up with a corrupted install

Technical Support / Re: PAW not seeing Skyecho
« Last Post by SGS66 on January 21, 2021, 04:21:11 pm »
I thought that one of the complaints about the Barton/Goodwood SkyEcho 2019? trials was that units were left on in aircraft on the ground and there was a lot of ground clutter from ADS-B out data
General Discussion / Re: Sell my Rosetta
« Last Post by SGS66 on January 21, 2021, 04:08:40 pm »
Bonjour Benoit,

Just out of interest, what is problem ? Possibly it is that there is not much traffic with ADB-S or PilotAware traffic in France, perhaps that will come.

The Zaon PCAS kit is great - i had a unit for about 6 years and found it very useful but when it when it went broken i had no choice but to get PilotAware which is great in the UK.

If you have need of an old PCAS unit for hardware spares just ask. My unit got slightly hot when i put the batteries in the wrong way and never worked again!

OGN-R PilotAware / Re: Upgrade overwriting custom vrs settings and users
« Last Post by Wildpig on January 21, 2021, 01:10:51 pm »
Hello dear forum users.
is there a plausible reason why this is being done?
I find it very annoying to re-enter my user settings on VRS every day. :-\

Here, here. I wasn't aware of all the work going on in the background, but thanks to all those that put in the effort to achieve this positive and sensible outcome.  :)

Yes great support from Joe and Steve at the LAA. We have a great team at Turweston.

When you click on the embed link it takes you directly to the pertinent documents..

I would also give a shout out to fellow Europa Club member Mike Pettican from LX Avionics (one of the major vendors the Funke transponder) who has been  extremely active and helpful on this topic over the last few days.


Bob H.
Yes good news of positive resolution - LAA Engineering have issued this statement via the Flyer Forum (see that forum post to follow the links mentioned):

As you may know it is possible to connect an uncertified GNSS (GPS) receiver to a range of Mode S transponders in LAA aircraft to provide uncertified ADS-B Out, which we’ve been approving since 2015 following the successful NATS trial.

It was recently brought to our attention that CS-STAN Issue 3 CS-SC005a (issued in 2019) requires that the transponder for such installations must be certified to ETSO-C166b, which covers the approval of a transponder to transmit ADS-B Out. LAA technical leaflet TL3.03 and LAA procedures also require that “transponders installed in UK aircraft must be of a type that has undergone an appropriate approval process by either EASA, the CAA or the FAA”. Given the lack of CAA rules on this subject, LAA interpret this requirement as a transponder providing ADS-B out must also be certified to ETSO-C166b. For the majority of ADS-B installations approved so far, this certification requirement was not of concern as most installations used a Mode S transponder that was certified to ETSO-C166b (ETSO certifications can be checked here).

Upon further research, LAA Engineering understands that a change in the wording to CS-STAN CS-SC005a ‘Configuration 3’ will be made with the next revision of CS-STAN which will remove the requirement for ETSO-C166b certification of the transponder. Please see this EASA FAQ here.

LAA Engineering is therefore satisfied that ADS-B Out installations with a transponder that is not certified to ETSO-C166b is satisfactory for ‘uncertified’ applications. The transponder must still be compliant with an appropriate certification for Mode-S operation, installed in accordance with the manufacturer’s instructions, and the ADS-B Out quality indicators must be set to SIL/SDA = 0.

All previously approved ADS-B Out connections are still valid and any LAA/MOD7 or LAA/MOD14 applications that were previously rejected can now be processed normally.
It will be very interesting to hear the results.

Best Regards

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