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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by exfirepro on April 10, 2024, 05:15:03 pm »

Bonjour Encore Guy,

Sorry, been busy the last couple of days so missed your post.

Hello
some news about the Rosetta
in flight the 4 tabs are green, I receive the adsb (airliners) and some aircraft in S/C mode with the yellow rectangle in red or green with their exadecimal addresses.
on the other hand, still no metars or meteo on the surrounding airfields.
I do get clouds on the radar page.
Still no flarms despite the green gsm link.
see you soon
Guy

That is disappointing!

I just had another look at the PilotAware Database. I can see Cellular Reports from 38533C for 20240329, 20240407 and 20240408, but other than those, the most recent ADSB reported from 38533C (by PWLFLG2) was on 20240328 and the most recent PAW (again by PWLFLG2) was way back on 20240128. This makes me wonder if the issue is (at least partly) related to distance and lack of ATOM stations in the area - though we did have a bit of trouble with the servers a week or so ago, so there could be some gaps in our data.

I see Lee (Admin) has asked for your unit's MAC. He has more extensive access to the system than I do, so may be able to find out more about what is going on. In the meantime - bearing in mind that radio and cellular reception will both be affected by terrain obscuration to varying extents while flying in such a mountainous area, - can you remind us how far away (approximately) your airfield at Chambery (LFLE) is from Grenoble (PWLFLG2) and how close (again approximately) you actually got to the ground station at Grenoble during your most recent flights.

Best Regards

Peter

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by DY691 on April 10, 2024, 10:26:52 am »

Hi
Mac adress/Hostid
B827EB4F4147
Thx

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by Admin on April 10, 2024, 08:22:08 am »

Hi

Can you please share the MAC/hostid address of your device
Thx
Lee

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by DY691 on April 08, 2024, 12:22:51 pm »

Hello
some news about the Rosetta
in flight the 4 tabs are green, I receive the adsb (airliners) and some aircraft in S/C mode with the yellow rectangle in red or green with their exadecimal addresses.
on the other hand, still no metars or meteo on the surrounding airfields.
I do get clouds on the radar page.
Still no flarms despite the green gsm link.
see you soon
Guy

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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: OGN STATION TO VRS

« Last Post by Admin on April 07, 2024, 11:34:33 pm »

I think you need to ask the ogn glidernet folks
We only control PilotAware ATOM software

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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: OGN STATION TO VRS

« Last Post by Ralo on April 07, 2024, 07:42:45 am »

Hi Ralo

Is this an OGN station ?
or a PilotAware ATOM station ?

Sorry I should have  asked that initially

Thx
Lee

Yes thats an OGN station. The PAW hint didn't worked. Any other suggestion?

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by exfirepro on April 05, 2024, 10:53:08 am »

Well done Guy!

As I said earlier, I'm pretty sure I have never come across a Bridge coming loose from the GPIO pins in a Rosetta, though I have seen that happen a few times in the PAW Classic - usually because it had been dropped or shaken about by too many heavy landings  .

I'm certainly glad I suggested opening the unit to check though. Good to see it back working again. Every day is a school day as they say.

It's great to get a positive outcome - think we can claim that as a result.

Let me know how it performs once you get back in the air.

A Bientot

Peter

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by DY691 on April 05, 2024, 09:22:20 am »

Hello Peter
Thanks for your help ?
I started to disassemble the Rosetta (the explanations were very clear, well done).
In fact by opening the top cover the module came by itself I think the 40 pins were badly inserted...I did not go any further and by reinforcing the top module everything went back to normal.
I do have the 4 green tabs???
No gliders in sight this morning. I'll check this afternoon to see if the flarms are present.
Thanks for your help
Have a nice day
Best regards
Guy

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by exfirepro on April 04, 2024, 04:36:08 pm »

Hi again Guy,

Thanks for the feedback.

Unfortunately, this post is by its very nature somewhat complex, but please bear with me.

From the logging screen messages, my money is still on a barometer failure, but the problem with remote diagnosis is trying to determine whether there is something else going on in the background that is causing the barometer to stop reporting.

If you were in the UK I'd just get you to send it back for testing, or send you a replacement Bridge to swap in, but I have spoken to Ash (who builds, tests and dispatches the units and tells me you have been in touch about installing another ATOM in the South of France). He advises that returning the unit to the UK from France for testing/repair can cause all sorts of problems with Customs (Douaniers) in both countries, so he advises that we should first try to ensure that the problem is definitely with the Bridge and not the Raspberry Pi.

To do this, we need to open the unit and check if there is a correct voltage on the Bridge (supplied from the Raspberry Pi motherboard).

If you are happy to give this a try, you need to proceed as follows...

Power down the unit and remove the power cable, microSD card and the antennas. Next remove the brass nut securing the P3i SMA terminal (which is part of the Bridge board) into the end of the case (nothing will move at this point).

Now open the top cap at the opposite end of the case. If it hasn't been opened before, you will need to split the PilotAware label along the obvious joint line across the top of the case with a sharp blade. Now gently press down the centre of the cap next to the joint to release the single securing clip and you can slide the top cap away from the body.

Having removed the cap, you now need to split the upper part of the case from the lower part. They are held together by two hidden clips along each side of the case. Start with the one which is mid-way between the audio jack socket and the now open top cover. Push a thin blade gently but firmly into the split line and the upper and lower case should pop apart. Try not to force the blade in too hard or you might break the clip. There is a second clip on the same side mid-way between the power and HDMI sockets, which should pop more easily once the first one is open. You can then do the same with the two clips on the opposite side (which are in exactly the same positions) and carefully remove the upper case - slipping it off the P3i antenna connector which you took the brass nut off earlier. You are now looking at the PilotAware Bridge, which is mounted on top of the Raspberry Pi.

The first thing to check is that the Bridge connector at the right side is fully seated onto all 40 pins of the Raspberry Pi GPIO connector (I'd be extremely surprised if it isn't). Next, temporarily refit the antenna to the P3i connector, replace the microSD card and power lead and power up the unit. You should now be able to clearly see the Red 'Power LED' on the motherboard under the P3i antenna connector and the disc activity LED next to it (which flashes green during boot or when writing data to the microSD card, but is otherwise 'unlit'). As the unit boots, you should also see a couple of LEDs start to flash on the underside of the Bridge at the opposite end to the antenna connector, but ignore these for the moment.

First, you will also see 3 sets of test points, one marked 'IN +5v and GND' and two marked 'OUT +5v and GND' . If you have a multimeter, you should be able to get a reading from these test points with your meter on the low voltage scale - mine are all reading 4.95 volts (with the unit powered off a USB battery pack). This will confirm whether the Bridge is receiving power from the Raspberry Pi.

Next go back to the LEDs on the underside of the Bridge. The one nearest the HDMI terminal is the P3i Transmit/Receive indicator, which will briefly flash red to indicate Transmit and Green to indicate Receive of P3i signals (once the Bridge starts functioning). The other LED (next to the RJ45 Ethernet Socket) is the Bridge Status LED (marked Status on the upper surface of the Board). This will initially flash Red 4 times, then used to progressively change to Green Flashes as each of the various stages became active in the same sequence as the list of reports on the Home Screen, so 1090 Rx, P3i T/Rx, Baro and GPS. This was changed some time ago, however, so that the Status LED simply stops flashing Red when each of the 4 stages becomes active, - so NO Green Flashes on the Status LED. I have just checked one of my test units and get 4 Reds at initial boot, then decreasing to zero as each stage becomes active. Having just brought mine back indoors, it has lost its GPS fix, so there is now just a single red flash (which equates to NO GPS as indicating on the Home Screen) then a long pause which equates to 3 'missing' flashes for the other 3 'working' functions, then a single red again for 'No GPS'. In your case, I would expect to see a blank equal to two flashes, then two red flashes in succession, though that depends on whether your unit is seeing any 1090 traffic.

Give this a try and let me know how you get on.

Best Regards

Peter

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM with Rosetta (in France)

« Last Post by DY691 on April 04, 2024, 10:54:26 am »

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