PilotAware
British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: EricC on May 26, 2016, 05:32:50 pm
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Just received my PilotAware Bridge, now up and running.
I am located 1 mile south of Poulton Railway Station
N.N.E of Blackpool Airport. Point 52 on the map
The Bridge Aerial is located on my house roof if
anyone is flying by feel free to use for range checking etc.
Contact me on 07905336066 to check it is switched on.
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Hi Eric,
Might be worth posting your position on the map setup by Ian Fallon
http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,140.0.html
Thx
Lee
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Sorted Point 52 on the map.
EricC
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Operating during daylight hours since the 26th.
Rx showing 0 so no contact with another Paw.
Monitoring on comms receiver indicates the Bridge is working well.
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400 bridges and systems being sent out this week, lets see if that makes a difference :D
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400 bridges and systems being sent out this week, lets see if that makes a difference :D
I went to order a kit today, sold out :(
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Working on that ;-)
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Screen shots from today.
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One more screenshot.
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Received a PAW Transmission for a short while today.
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Ground station closed at the monent, need to sort out new licence.
Sorry will post when working.
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Ground station back on the air.
I will leave on during daylight hours.
From the PAW my position is N 53.83895
W 2.98885
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Home screen from today.
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Eric,
Rx = 86...... Somebody else is finally out there ! :)
Peter
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Hi Peter.
Is it possible for me to determine the source of the Rx
pulses from my log?
Thanks EricC
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Give paw a reboot
Go to the home page
Click listtrack
Download the file for the date in question (to a pc or mac)
This contains all logged data
Thx
Lee
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Assuming I get my ground station up and running today, what are the best settings to identify it?
Do I just make up a Reg?
Did a GroundStation setting get implemented in the software?
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Hi Jeremy,
There is a setting in (Configure) (Aircraft Type) for 'Base Station', which transmits this information as part of the P3i data. Some Nav Systems can apparently display this, but I don't know which ones.
You 'can' put something other than your 'Reg' in the Flight ID box to identify yourself. It has 12 character spaces so 'Jeremy Base' for example is possible.
(Page 27 of the new Operational Manual refers)
Regards
Peter
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Hi Jeremy,
There is a setting in (Configure) (Aircraft Type) for 'Base Station', which transmits this information as part of the P3i data. Some Nav Systems can apparently display this, but I don't know which ones.
You 'can' put something other than your 'Reg' in the Flight ID box to identify yourself. It has 12 character spaces so 'Jeremy Base' for example is possible.
(Page 27 of the new Operational Manual refers)
Regards
Peter
Righto things are kind of up and running, bit of a mashup at the moment but functional. Had some alerts from a tiger moth and an R22 flitting around Cambridge, according to the radio traffic anyway.
If anyone is around Cambridge way I will try and have it on most of the time, I'm inside the EGSC ATZ to the North.
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Hi Jeremy,
Maybe put yourself on the map setup by Ian Fallon ?
I have been wondering the best names to use on base stations, what about post codes postfixed by BASE
eg
CV32ZZ-BASE
Thx
Lee
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Hi Jeremy,
Maybe put yourself on the map setup by Ian Fallon ?
I have been wondering the best names to use on base stations, what about post codes postfixed by BASE
eg
CV32ZZ-BASE
Thx
Lee
I've been on the map for ages down as 'JCurtis' ;)
As for my base station name, I'll see if anyone spots me, I've left the group as default so it will have the #'s around.
There could be a discount code for a charger available for the first correctly reported spot ;D. I'll leave it on as much as possible during the day, if the weather is bad it might go off as I've not weather protected it at all yet.
To the one member on here who I let know what it was set to, you are not eligible to enter!
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Heck of a long way to fly for a charger discount Jeremy! I'll have to pass. :)
Welcome to PilotAware!!
Peter
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Hi
No Rx today.
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I left mine running today, and before I left the house to do some work in Newbury, I had 222 P3i packets. :)
See what it says when I get home.
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Paul,
If you reboot your paw and email the track file,
I can post process and give you the data
Thx
Lee
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There's masses and masses of ADS-B data in there, but I'll give it a go! ;D
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Hi
RX today 48. Poor wx so very little flying around here.
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Remembered to take a screen shot before shutting down for the day, no-one been down my way yet it seems.
Won't be up tomorrow but expect to be running Tue/Wed all day.
Yesterday I had the PilotAware connected via some test gear monitoring the power draw, over the day it took 58.14m readings and there was quite a span in terms of consumption. The minimum was 0.658A with the max being 1.326A, this was with the PilotAware unit, an iPad connected running SkyDemon and I guess an average of circa 55 ADS-B/Mode S targets shown on the traffic page when I looked from time to time. Voice alerting also running via a set if ear bud headphones. The unit and iPad were powered by a Charge4.
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Hi Eric,
You can download the track logs onto a laptop, PC or Mac via the 192.168.1.1 wifi address and they can be opened and read using 'Notepad' or 'Wordpad'. Takes a bit of getting your head round though at first. If you are struggling, drop a note to Lee, he has a programme to analyse the logs - just don't everybody ask at once or development will grind to a halt :)
Let me know how you get on
Regards
Peter
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How can you tell which ones are P3i and which ones are ADS-B?
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How can you tell which ones are P3i and which ones are ADS-B?
There is no definitive way from this file TBH, but assuming that the receiver has not changed its default 'Group-ID', and the transmitter has not changed its default 'Group-ID' - so both set to PAWGRP, then any PilotAware Flight-ID will be bracketed in '#'
eg,
$PFLAA,0,14163,14666,29,1,405CA6!#G-PAW4#,58,,48,,8*7B
Thx
Lee
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I thought of that but out of supposedly 122 P3i messages in the file I sent you, I did a search for "#" and couldn't find any. My PAW still has PAWGRP as the group default.
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If we are going to have ground stations, I think it is worth the investment of having a higher gain antenna.
You really need good clearance based upon your surroundings.
The ground stations we used during testing, were in the middle of an airfield, and hence were completely void of obstructions
Keith is experimenting at the moment with a collinear type antenna, to see what kind of results that would give for a ground station.
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I thought of that but out of supposedly 122 P3i messages in the file I sent you, I did a search for "#" and couldn't find any. My PAW still has PAWGRP as the group default.
I'm currently working on a GUI post processor program for the files.
It'll be on general release soon ;-)
cheers
Dave.
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Is that a collinear for the ADS-B or P3i? I already have a collinear which I made for ADS-B, but a P3i one would be good for a ground station as well. It has the added complexity of the transmitter and VSWR matching as well though if the unit's going to be transmitting.
I've currently got my PAW on my upstairs windowsill with the ADS-B antenna unplugged so I only get P3i! :D
Well I would if anyone was flying.
Apologies to anyone kept low by Farnborough overflying Guildford and getting a traffic alert from G-DOGG! :o ;D
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Ground station antenna. Vertical 1/4 wave home made.
More than happy to try out another type is if it is any help.
I have fitted mine to the ridge tile on the house roof.
The only screening is to the west, chimney stack.
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I'm a little concerned about Ground stations !!! When we fly, are we going to see hundreds of Ground Stations which are cluttering the Map for no apparent reason. The PI3 transmitter may want to be disabled for a ground Station ????
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I'm a little concerned about Ground stations !!! When we fly, are we going to see hundreds of Ground Stations which are cluttering the Map for no apparent reason. The PI3 transmitter may want to be disabled for a ground Station ????
Mine is more for testing than being fully permanent, there could always be an option to display displaying them...
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There is an option for 'Base Station' in the Aircraft Type configure page - does this not solve this issue?
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There is an option for 'Base Station' in the Aircraft Type configure page - does this not solve this issue?
Not yet but it will in a forthcoming release - well before we have a plethora of ground stations.
Thx
Lee
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ThanX Lee, that was the reply I was hoping to see. ;)
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No Rx received today.
l gather you do not wish to have ground stations.
My intention was to assist users to test the range and conform there unit was
performing satisfactorily and at a suitable range.
Shutdown from now!
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Hi Eric,
Please don't be concerned, I think it is fine to keep this up and running, this is not going to cause an issue right now.
As I mentioned earlier, I will have the base station disabled from transmission in the next release,
so will not be a problem, should a number of base stations pop up.
I have a question, do you have your basestation connected to the internet through your router, or simply stand alone.
It would be pretty easy to automate uploading of received data to a server - in the same way the automatic updates are downloaded.
This would mean you would not need to post your data manually, we could collect automatically.
Thx
Lee
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How about having a network of ground stations feeding into FR24...?
It would be easier if the Wifi could be configured to connect to the home network rather than having to use a cable.
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Please could we have the option of transmitting from a base station, if required? Or maybe two sorts of base station, tx and non-tx? At the moment they are very useful for testing airpborne PAWs.
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How about having a network of ground stations feeding into FR24...?
It would be easier if the Wifi could be configured to connect to the home network rather than having to use a cable.
To wifi your Pilotaware to your network you simply need a wifi extender, something like the bt one, or one from maplins, there are lots to chose from. Plug your Pilotaware into the wifi extender via the network output rj45 and you now have it connected wifi. You can remove the wifi dongale from the Pilotaware as You now conected via wifi network. It works a treat.
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It would be easier and take less electricity if it were to be done within the PAW.
As for base stations transmitting for test purposes, surely you just need to set it to some sort of aircraft instead, rather than setting it to "base station" for that to happen? You can still set what ID you want it to transmit.
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My concern for an explosion in Base station was that anyone can buy a PAW, non flyers, and wannabe's and genuine aviation people. I'm all for the base station set up correctly, Some one at sherburn suggested trying to set up an on screen Radar (Flight Radar 24) for every one to see in the club to monitor traffic around the airfield..... I suggested to them it would be far better to use PAW for very accurate results, We may have an uptake from the suggestion too!
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Can there be an option in the config screen so that we can choose to display ground stations or not, rather than kill the option altogether?
Best of both words:-
Disable the display of ground stn' if you're flying and don't want clutter.
Enable ground stn' display when testing.
Deker.
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My concern for an explosion in Base station was that anyone can buy a PAW, non flyers, and wannabe's and genuine aviation people. I'm all for the base station set up correctly, Some one at sherburn suggested trying to set up an on screen Radar (Flight Radar 24) for every one to see in the club to monitor traffic around the airfield..... I suggested to them it would be far better to use PAW for very accurate results, We may have an uptake from the suggestion too!
I have used a PAW on the ground and watched people doing circuits. I've also used a PAW on the ground to watch someone fly over to the training area near Diss/Eye and fly around there, training!
My school are thinking of fitting them so they can watch their aircraft from the club house.
Important point: In REAL time and 20 miles out !
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I'm either having a Brain Wave or a Brain Fart.
If we want ground stations why are we going down the route of Pi's and Bridges? Isn't a SDR dongle capable of receiving P3i transmissions? It could then run on a Pi or a PC. I know someone will have to write the software, or adapt what is already out there? but it would be cheaper and it would make integration with Flight Radar 24 (other software is available) much easier.
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Have mine up and running again.
RX Yesterday 393
Regarding the term Base Station/ Ground station maybe an option
would be the term (Test Station) indicating that it is for range test purposes.
Authorised by PilotAware to be used as such.
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Hi Eric,..
I'll see if I can get the Log processing software posted later. Be nice for everyone to be able to easily look in their log files!
regards
Dave.
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Here's a quick screen grab I too this morning.
Showing Mode S, ADSB and a PAW contact :-)
(http://i1052.photobucket.com/albums/s443/pumpu9/Screenshot_2016-06-19-10-45-17_zpszwtftct7.png)
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I'll see if I can get the Log processing software posted later. Be nice for everyone to be able to easily look in their log files!
That would be good, Dave!
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I think I would be concerned if I saw ICAO24-address 1E641D as this is from the Russian Federation [ RU ]
1E641D hex = 1991709 decimal = 7462035 octal = 00011110 01100100 00011101 binary.
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I think I would be concerned if I saw ICAO24-address 1E641D as this is from the Russian Federation [ RU ]
1E641D hex = 1991709 decimal = 7462035 octal = 00011110 01100100 00011101 binary.
This is not an ICAO code, it is a PilotAware allocated code.
This is output until the user enters a FlightID code
Thx
Lee
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Just received RX from G-BCCF
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Lee, does a ground station, that is transmitting appear as an alert to passing aircraft? Could cause some confusion as reported on the Flyer forum. Obviously ground obstruction should alert an aircraft, but monitoring/testing should be suppressed in some way? Monitoring could have the TX turned off as mentioned elsewhere, but testing?
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Lee, does a ground station, that is transmitting appear as an alert to passing aircraft? Could cause some confusion as reported on the Flyer forum. Obviously ground obstruction should alert an aircraft, but monitoring/testing should be suppressed in some way? Monitoring could have the TX turned off as mentioned elsewhere, but testing?
I only control the audio alerts, and this will raise an audio alert which is based upon proximity.
I dont think SD will complain as it does some analysis on trajectory and proximity.
Also for the navigation devices the ground station will appear as static, it will not have an extended track line.
In the next release, I will add the ability to ignore ground stations if desired, this means they can continue to collect and supply data, if desired.
Thx
Lee
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Just gone of the air at the moment.
Now have a Pi 2 B waiting for a new licence.
Rx for today 1224
Back soon fingers crossed
EricC
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Hi Eric,
are you looking at the track files by any chance to see what you are capturing.
I think Dave styles is looking at building a post processor to analyse the data files
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I've built it, I just need to test it a bit more and release v0.1
In the true spirit of PAW, I'll then take suggestions and upgrade it as I go ;-)
Hopefully release the first version tomorrow.
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Thanks to all, up and running again. :)
Regarding log files, have looked, the list is endless, not a clue what they mean.
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Home screen from today. Two aircraft,
no info been out all day.
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Live all day no PAW RX received.
Poor WX after 1300z so not surprised no contacts.
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No Paw Rx today
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No Paw Rx again today. On all day, reboot late afternoon.
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It would seem I have picked up two contacts today, over 313 odd packets. At least I have two callsigns with #'s around in the log. I will work out some distances etc. later on.
Will either come forward with the name of my Base Station to claim a discount on a charger...?
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Well if my trig is right, then I was picking the first at a range of 20.6km to 23.6km and the second starting at 13km, closing to 7.8km, then increasing again to 12.9km
If I find the energy and some new batteries for the calculator, I may look to reverse engineer the tracks... unless someone has some software to that already?
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I've not looked at the log in detail, but if the lat., lon. and alt can be stripped out you should be able to parse it for Google Earth?
I used to do a lot of this stuff, but have been out of programming for a few years now.
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I've not looked at the log in detail, but if the lat., lon. and alt can be stripped out you should be able to parse it for Google Earth?
I used to do a lot of this stuff, but have been out of programming for a few years now.
Well what I have is the Easting and Northing relative to me, so some basic trig to get the relative bearing and distance. Once I have that I can then work out the lat long based from my own fixed position, throw in the relative height, and generate a file. I remember doing this stuff in ground school, amazed I could remember it to be honest!
I suppose I could just cut the corner and convert everything directly into Lat/Long...
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Which log Interface messages have you got enabled to see PAW packets?
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That will be on the home screen of 192.168.1.1 under the TRX information TX and RX
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Thanks Brinzlee, I found that after I posted. However Jeremy stated that it was relative to his PAW, where as mine seems to be absolute.
Wish it would save the setting. Every time I leave the Config page I lose the log option ticks
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Which log Interface messages have you got enabled to see PAW packets?
I spotted a number of RX packets on TXRX section of the home page, so went to ListTracks and downloaded the track for the day (all 57Mb of it).
Then I cheated a little and just hoovered the lines with '#' in them to make things easier, on the assumption that the passing aircraft was still using the default groupID of PAWGRP. If they are using a different group it's not easily possible currently to pick out PAW aircraft.
cat /Users/JCurtis/Downloads/2016-07-03_07-03.trk | grep "#" > /Users/JCurtis/Downloads/2016-07-03_07-03_strip.trk
In these log files are the $PFLAA messages, these provide relative data for displaying on a device. I have masked the callsign I picked up...
$PFLAA,0,-5251,11794,854,1,406E85!# #,82,,40,,8*7F
There is another thread on here about decode the track log messages.
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Hi. 124 Rx packets today.
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Thanks Jeremy, I now understand why you are having to take extra steps to extract the data. if you enable trx logging, you can clearly see the PAW traffic in the diagnostic log file complete with Lon, Lat of the other aircraft.
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Found my first 15 Rx packets today with the PilotAware running as a ground station, no sign of any PAWGRP groupID in the 33mb file though unfortunately. Anyone noticed a ground station 7NM NW of Netherthorpe?
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Thanks Jeremy, I now understand why you are having to take extra steps to extract the data. if you enable trx logging, you can clearly see the PAW traffic in the diagnostic log file complete with Lon, Lat of the other aircraft.
I could do that, but I leave it unattended 99% of the time and I just check it from time to time. I have seen one of the aircraft seen earlier do a reverse journey a little while ago and took a screen shot or two from SkyDemon, to compare a computed track against a real one.
If you turn that logging on does it get written to a file too?
I need to create some extra networks on the LAN here for a project I'm working on, so I will make the effort and put PAW on it's own VLAN so I can leave the ethernet connected and still use SkyDemon with it on the normal network too.
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If you turn that logging on does it get written to a file too?
I thought it did, but having taken the SD card out of mine, I cannot see any log files. I think Lee is the best one to advise on that.
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Log files. I have tried to open them, computer states I
require a trk app. No luck with microsoft download centre.
Can anyone help? Thanks
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Log files. I have tried to open them, computer states I
require a trk app. No luck with microsoft download centre.
Can anyone help? Thanks
They are plain text files, so you can just rename them to a .txt extension and open them in a text editor or .csv for Excel. Note they can be large!
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Anyone noticed a ground station 7NM NW of Netherthorpe?
Funny that as I had a ground station running 7NM NW of Netheravon today.
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And nether the twain shall meet.
Anyone live 7NM NW of Nether Wallop?
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Another visitor passed by today, call sign was a little odd but after a quick search it seems this it was the Flight ID of a twin that passed by Cambridge on it's way out and back on a trip to the SE. Held onto that one until it was 16.4km away.
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What is your secret ? Are you using the same antenna that was supplied with the ARF or have you some elevated high gain setup.....I'm only picking up contacts for about 2-3km using my ground based kit
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What is your secret ? Are you using the same antenna that was supplied with the ARF or have you some elevated high gain setup.....I'm only picking up contacts for about 2-3km using my ground based kit
Using the antenna that came with the PilotAware for P3i but on a 5m extension cable, it's sitting on the roof of my office along with a higher gain ADS-B antenna (no pre-amp). The ADS-B will pickup up to around 230Km. The height of those I have seen has been around 2000'-3000' but I haven't taken the slope angle into the distance calculations. The office roof is metal clad that could well be helping, but they are sat on the edge for easy recovery.
Overall site elevation is around 50 feet, essentially the same as Cambridge AirPort.
I have only seen three 'targets' I could identify from the logs and no idea if they saw me, no-one has been in touch with my base station name to claim the discount code on a charger as yet.
It's a pretty crude install, and not weather proof as yet (i.e. I bring it in when it rains), still working out how best to get the various antenna mounted and weather sealed. I have a few in addition to the PAW ones to mount at some point. I'd post a pic but it people may laugh!
All run from a Charge4 that I use to charge things in the office rather than have a bunch of PSU's knocking around.
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Thanks for that.....the P3i antenna I presume is the same kind of build as the old ARF one in so much as that its a staged dipole constructed in a single ABS sleeve....Lee mentioned that he did tests with a sportcruiser using a monopole and utilising the ground of the airframe.....I wonder if that is a better way to go beefing up the groundplane
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Thanks for that.....the P3i antenna I presume is the same kind of build as the old ARF one in so much as that its a staged dipole constructed in a single ABS sleeve....Lee mentioned that he did tests with a sportcruiser using a monopole and utilising the ground of the airframe.....I wonder if that is a better way to go beefing up the groundplane
Yes I suspect internally that is what is it, I haven't popped it open to take a look. I could try an ARF one, I have a few knocking around, but without knowing who or what may be passing I have no way to judge what is what.
The antenna are not connected to the ground plane, just sat on top of the roof on a bit of 4x2, but having a ~11m/sq of metal underneath will be doing something...
I really must get something better sorted out :-[
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Thanks for that.....the P3i antenna I presume is the same kind of build as the old ARF one in so much as that its a staged dipole constructed in a single ABS sleeve....Lee mentioned that he did tests with a sportcruiser using a monopole and utilising the ground of the airframe.....I wonder if that is a better way to go beefing up the groundplane
They are in theory the same, but we found that the ones we had specifically made for PilotAware are in fact better tuned. We tested them side by side in the same aircraft on test flights and although we got 20nm from the old antenna, we actually saw even more from the one supplied in the kit and on the hardware website.
Still.. 20nm should be plenty !
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What is your secret ? Are you using the same antenna that was supplied with the ARF or have you some elevated high gain setup.....I'm only picking up contacts for about 2-3km using my ground based kit
Hi Brinzlee,
I am a bit concerned about your findings here.
As I recall you purchased a number of Bridges, have you tried the others out, there is something screwy going on.
Thx
Lee
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Have tried three independent units.....2 of them not mine....I haven't done an air to air test yet......I used mine going to Sywell on Friday with the external dipole antenna....worked faultlessly for 82nm then in the orbit by Pitsford it lost the connection to my iPad.....I didn't have time to reactivate the Flarm connection but I thought maybe I would have spotted other contacts (P3i at some point).....Mode S and ADSB were all perfect up until that point....The battery and lead are all ones specified.....I'm at a loss too !!
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Have tried three independent units.....2 of them not mine....I haven't done an air to air test yet......I used mine going to Sywell on Friday with the external dipole antenna....worked faultlessly for 82nm then in the orbit by Pitsford it lost the connection to my iPad.....I didn't have time to reactivate the Flarm connection but I thought maybe I would have spotted other contacts (P3i at some point).....Mode S and ADSB were all perfect up until that point....The battery and lead are all ones specified.....I'm at a loss too !!
Come for a spin near Cambridge and I'll see if I spot you... give me some notice to ensure the station is up and running through.
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Thanks for the offer, I'm flying in a Cirrus on Thursday...I'll see if I can do a swerve en route to Old Bucks.....be about 11.15
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Better watch out Jeremy, he's after your discount!! ;D
Seriously though Brinsley, I'm not particularly surprised you weren't getting many P3i contacts en route to Sywell. I can't believe the number of fellow aviators who haven't even heard of PilotAware - let alone got one. We seriously need to spread the word and get our colleagues to buy in to the project.
Only 2-3 km from a ground station, however, definitely sounds like something isn't right. Hope you get to the bottom of it.
Regards
Peter
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Depends if he manages to pick me up and makes a claim.....
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Thanks for the offer, I'm flying in a Cirrus on Thursday...I'll see if I can do a swerve en route to Old Bucks.....be about 11.15
The easiest landmark reference for me is A14/A10 junction, although I am inside the Cambridge zone. I'll keep an eye out.
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Waypoint stored....I'll see if I can see you too
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No Rx packets today.
Screen shots, maybe of interest.
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Hi Eric,
A Grob Tutor (from G-INFO). Squawking Mode S at 6,500 feet QNH. From the signal strength, it looks like it went straight through your overhead, or certainly very close - hence the Mode S Danger Alert on your Nav Screen. I seem to remember you are now full Pi2 with Bridge, so you will also have got the full PAW Audio Warnings as it went through - though you may not of course have been present. I take it you have your Mode S separation set at quite a high level? Out of interest, what 'Mode S Detect Range' did you have set?
Regards
Peter
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I'm also leaving my PAW running as a ground station at the moment when not flying.
It's situated SG19 2LF approx 3 miles East of Sandy.
It's been running 16 days continuous now have RX=502.
Just positioned by a window facing west.
If you want to swing by Brinzlee :)
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Config screen as attachment.
Grob about 4 miles to the east.
Visual to me tracking north/south for about 15 mins.
I have been studying the Sig levels that trigger warnings, all seem
very well set.
The warnings on xcsoar always show the target overhead as no lat long data transmitted
by mode S guess no extended squitter fitted on these aircraft.
Running a Pi2.
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Hi BNMONT
That's very interesting as I flew over Sandy last Friday enroute to the Sywell Expo. That's one big mast you have there !!....I was at 1500 feet at about 12.15BST......I didn't get any contact if you've had your base station on for the past 2 weeks....Again all very odd....!! Registration G-MASS
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Hi Eric,
The Grob was definitely straight Mode S.
Extended Squitter (ADSB) would have shown the distance between you both - based on your relative GPS positions - in the 'DIST-KM' column of the traffic table - as EI-EKN on the top line. The rest on your table are all 'Mode S'.
I'm just slightly surprised to see a signal strength over 200 at 4 miles, but then again if it was clear line of sight and I seem to remember you saying that you have your antenna up on your roof ridge in the clear. It is of course possible that that particular Grob is fitted with a higher power transponder, which could put out up to 250 Watts, rather than the 'normal' GA type which generates about 125 Watts. This is the essence of the difficulty in trying to establish effective alert 'distances' from bearingless targets (i.e. raw transponders).
Regards once again
Peter
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Sorry Peter, not strictly true.
G-GDFF is definitely ADSB as I've just tracked him in the air right now, & as EJM11 is displaying the full SIL & SDA data he must also be ADSB and I'd be extremely surprised if the other Ryanair, EI-EKW, wasn't ADSB too.
Strange but true.
Alan
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The Grob was flying a race track pattern, the Sig 202 was the highest
I observed in the turn, guess transponder aerial on the under side of the aircraft.
The Bridge aerial is on the roof, adsb on the Paw in the loft space 1/4 wave
with ground plane.
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Typical, go to drop off some orders and someone does a fly-by.
From the reg it could be a Mode C only aircraft as nothing comes up on FR24 for the reg or hex code. Have to wait an see if they spotted me, range reported as 7km to 9km
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Sorry Peter, not strictly true.
G-GDFF is definitely ADSB as I've just tracked him in the air right now, & as EJM11 is displaying the full SIL & SDA data he must also be ADSB and I'd be extremely surprised if the other Ryanair, EI-EKW, wasn't ADSB too.
Strange but true.
Alan
OK Alan, point taken, so I'm a bit confused now. My comments to Eric were based on the results shown in his traffic table. As you are aware, HEX + SQuawk + ALT + SIGnal strength - with no DISTance is the known signature of a Mode S transmission (we've looked at plenty!!) - no horizontal position information, so PilotAware can't calculate its distance from your receiver.
So what Eric seems to have been seeing is a combination of clear ADSB (EI-EKN), clear Mode S (The Grob G-CGKS) and what appear to be Mode S responses from what you have clearly observed to be ADSB equipped aircraft - namely G-GDFF and EMJ11 (sorry Eric I overlooked the significance of the SIL /SDA entries in the case of EMJ11, but couldn't have known about G-GDFF - at least not without looking it up on FR24 or G-INFO).
Eric, I'm wondering - was it raining at yours at the time? You say your 1090MHz antenna is a 1/4 wave with ground plane inside your loft. Heavy rain or snow on the outside of a slate or tiled roof is a known cause of significant attenuation of radio signals at this sort of frequency. I'm beginning to think this might account for only the high power 'pulsed' CAT Mode S return from these CAT ADSB transponders being strong enough to 'punch' through the wet roof to your antenna, and hence the lack of an ADSB based positional DISTance in the table. Best explanation I can think of at the moment anyway. Anyone else got any ideas?
Regards
Peter
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Attached is a picture of the PAW in the loft space.
The roof was dry no cloud below the grob.
Just had a departure from about 800 yds away from my house
107ft Sig 189
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Attached is a picture of the PAW in the loft space.
The roof was dry no cloud below the grob.
Just had a departure from about 800 yds away from my house
107ft Sig 189
Hi again Eric,
Not too bothered about the Grob, I'm quite happy that was Mode S - as I say, the signal strength fits with an aircraft using a higher power transponder (such as a Trig TT22 or similar) - which outputs up to 250 Watts as opposed to my TT21,s 125 Watt maximum.
The problem is the entries that Alan is saying are definitely ADSB equipped aircraft, so should be showing a DISTance from you in your traffic table. One thought was attenuation from a wet roof, but you say the roof wasn't wet - I take it it's not made of, or lined with metal (e.g. aluminium foil on insulated plasterboard)?
Another thought was that you are very near Blackpool and quite close to Wharton. When CAT is on the ground, the ground radar returns are effectively mode S at very high power, and show up as such on the PAW traffic screen. During testing near Edinburgh Airport, we noticed these were often strong enough to trigger Mode S 'Danger' alerts from well over a mile away, which is why we developed the Ultra Short Range setting specifically to deal with this type of scenario. I also noticed that some of them don't engage ADSB until well into the climbout, which might have explained aircraft less than say 2,000ft, but not at the heights yours are showing at, so doesn't help to explain those.
I will give it some more thought.
Regards
Peter
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From my Kinetic SBS1 base station only about half of the returns are ADSB
Comparing the logs as near as i can tell they are the same as the PAW.
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Yes Eric,
PAW and ADSB both show in a similar manner on the PAW traffic screen, though PAW, being much less powerful transmitters, generally don't have a significant SIGnal strength. Also the SQuawk for a PAW transmission will be the group-ID (e.g. the default 'PAWGRP' or whatever the user has set) as PAW doesn't transmit a conventional squawk.
Regards
Peter
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I was just illustrating that about half large public transport aircraft
do not transmit ADSB.
PAW users can expect no distance info from many aircraft.
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Hi Eric,
I was just illustrating that about half large public transport aircraft
do not transmit ADSB.
PAW users can expect no distance info from many aircraft.
That's why I had no concerns with my original statement - until Alan picked me up on it ??? And let's not forget all those out there who either haven't bought or can't afford a transponder - or have one but fly with it switched off. That's what makes PAW with its definite gps-based location info such a bonus!
Regards
Peter
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I agree wih you completely.
Only 15RX so far today.
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Well another disappointing day of testing.....I flew overhead JeremyC at 2000 feet in Cambridge with no contact at 3pm.
I did have one contact from a ground contact at Old Buckenham but we were on the ground too right next to him with a rather poor range of 500 metres before I lost contact when I took off......
I have tried lots of options now....the aircraft was composite this time so I can't even blame my poor range on metal cladding which is what I thought was restricting my TX/RX. Tried a variety of Antennas.....Fully charged batteries.....Heavy duty power leads.....
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Well another disappointing day of testing.....I flew overhead JeremyC at 2000 feet in Cambridge with no contact at 3pm.
I did have one contact from a ground contact at Old Buckenham but we were on the ground too right next to him with a rather poor range of 500 metres before I lost contact when I took off......
I have tried lots of options now....the aircraft was composite this time so I can't even blame my poor range on metal cladding which is what I thought was restricting my TX/RX. Tried a variety of Antennas.....Fully charged batteries.....Heavy duty power leads.....
Well if you were in G-OAWM I was seeing you, lost you at 7.6km.
I know I TX something as I pickup the RF on a spectrum analyser.
I think you were literally almost overhead at one point, I could have stood outside and waved.
If this was you, could a potential local source of interference could be swamping the Bridge RX perhaps?
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I think I must have a faulty Bridge.....I didn't pick you up at all.....I have tried various antennas and different aircraft.....So I don't think I'm swamping the input stage with noise....I will have to see what the guys at Hardware think ?
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Definitely something strange going on Brinsley. Alan and I have been getting 5- 10 miles reliably with pretty much standard kit. You will get some screening forward left and down from your engine with the P3i antenna in that position, but should have 'seen' Jeremy well before the point where that might have become an issue.
Assuming you were in G-OAWM and he saw you at up to 7.6km, you are certainly transmitting. A bit surprised that you lost your old Bucks contact at 500 metres too - definitely sounds like a receiver issue to me.
Peter
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I think I must have a faulty Bridge.....I didn't pick you up at all.....I have tried various antennas and different aircraft.....So I don't think I'm swamping the input stage with noise....I will have to see what the guys at Hardware think ?
I presume my TX is OK, although of those I have seen fly-by no-one has taken up the offer of a discount if they let me have my base station name. So they either aren't on the forum or are not interested....
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That of course is the other possibility Jeremy - I mean your TX being faulty, not nobody being interested in your offer. More likely to be Brinsley's receiver though as he says he has done several tests with similar results.
Peter
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That of course is the other possibility Jeremy - I mean your TX being faulty, not nobody being interested in your offer. More likely to be Brinsley's receiver though as he says he has done several tests with similar results.
Peter
I see a TX of some kind on a spectrum analyser and RF power meter, so it does transmit something....
The base station is on most of the time so will have to wait and see who passes by next..
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Will have to reposition my antenna and boost the reception a little !!
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Hi Brinsley,
let's swap your Bridge, that will eliminate that from the equation at least. Something isn't right is it ?
Could you send it back to the returns address in Ely and we'll get another one out to you.
regards
David Styles.
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Thanks David.....I could give all you guys a big cuddle....I'll pop it in the post tomorrow
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Only 19 PAW RX Today.
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Hi Jeremy, I drove down the A14 today at approx 6am and returned at 5.40pm had PAW on all the time. No sign of your unit.
When set as a base station does PAW transmit?
Brian
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Hi Jeremy, I drove down the A14 today at approx 6am and returned at 5.40pm had PAW on all the time. No sign of your unit.
When set as a base station does PAW transmit?
Brian
Hi Brian,
Unless you get a good line of sight - you will not get any transmission propagation at these frequencies, this is why TV Aerials go on top of roofs ;)
I can get about 0.5km in a built up area where there are lots of buildings, radio waves at this frequency have no penetration whatsoever - you canny change the laws of physics cap'n
luckily, for the intended use of PilotAware - we get pretty good Line of Sight ;D
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Hi Jeremy, I drove down the A14 today at approx 6am and returned at 5.40pm had PAW on all the time. No sign of your unit.
When set as a base station does PAW transmit?
Brian
Well it wasn't on at 6am, it was at 5.40pm but as Lee says I doubt you would pick me up. There is quite a bit between the A14 and me, my elevation is only about 50' and I believe the A14 is lower in a cutting as is passes North of Cambridge.
The nearest VRP for me is the A14/A10 junction, but that is about 1/3 of a mile away. No good on the ground but fine for in the air. You'll have to come by whilst airborne.
My total for the day is 0 so far.
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To windy for me this weekend! :(
Brian
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Base Station running on update:- 20160708.
No PAW Rx today, very poor Wx.
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Just managed to get the post processor running.
Several PAW hits. Ranging from 1Km to 12Km which I think is pretty good from my std setup sat running indoors by a window.
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Just managed to get the post processor running.
Several PAW hits. Ranging from 1Km to 12Km which I think is pretty good from my std setup sat running indoors by a window.
Interesting, I've picked up two of those, furthest was 16km.
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Just managed to get the post processor running.
Several PAW hits. Ranging from 1Km to 12Km which I think is pretty good from my std setup sat running indoors by a window.
BTW, that 8 digit PAW ID #76CC6280# is a bug ::)
Fixed in the 20160708 release.
I think its almost time to have a server running somewhere and feed this data directly.
I am in contact with FR24 about a feed-in, but cannot progress this with them till October
Thx
Lee
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Hi Lee,
I assume you are thinking along the lines of a ground based PAW listening network? Would you not have to modify the code to output the lat/lon/Alt of Airborne units, rather than the current relative position?
Cheers
Ian
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Hi Lee,
I assume you are thinking along the lines of a ground based PAW listening network? Would you not have to modify the code to output the lat/lon/Alt of Airborne units, rather than the current relative position?
Cheers
Ian
Hi Ian,
the Air-Air protocol contains Lat/Lon/Alt/GS - this is what would be passed back to a central server.
The data you are referring to, is purely for a NAV device
Thx
Lee
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Thanks for the clarification Lee
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Hi David
I returned my Bridge to the normal address in Ely on Friday and have noted it wasn't delivered by the Post Office on Saturday.....Just wondered if you had received it as I'm not sure where it is now. They said they have put a card through the door...Perhaps you can enlighten me
Kind regards
Brinsley
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Hi David
I returned my Bridge to the normal address in Ely on Friday and have noted it wasn't delivered by the Post Office on Saturday.....Just wondered if you had received it as I'm not sure where it is now. They said they have put a card through the door...Perhaps you can enlighten me
Kind regards
Brinsley
Hi Brinsley,
I've replied to your PM. All is well.
regards
David Styles
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THX for letting me know....Look forward to RX the TRX
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Visitor to Cambridge today...
Heard a traffic warning and took a quick break from some coding to look in the traffic table...
SIKORSKY S76C, THE QUEEN'S HELICOPTER FLIGHT
Opening a new base for the East Anglian Air Ambulance today.
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Hi JC,
Just saw a report of this on news. Just out of interest was it Mode S or ADSB?
Peter
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Hi JC,
Just saw a report of this on news. Just out of interest was it Mode S or ADSB?
Peter
Just come in from having a severe argument with some hardware, finally beaten it into submission...
It was Mode S, and I didn't see it on FR24.
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Thanks Jeremy, just wondered.
Regards
Peter
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Picked up someone today, 75 packets, nothing in the log file with a # on it.
A slight aside, the track viewer doesn't seem to work on track files since the last software update, can someone else check if theirs works OK?
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Mine doesn't work either.....I did a manual search for anything with a # in the original TRK file with a text editor. Copied and pasted just those entries then Saved it as a text file, renamed it as TRK file then read it back into the track viewer and that seemed to work
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Hi Jeremy
I had the same thing happen to me today....48 Packets received....I did the same trick that I mentioned above but couldn't find anything......Strange !!
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Hi Jeremy
I had the same thing happen to me today....48 Packets received....I did the same trick that I mentioned above but couldn't find anything......Strange !!
Well there won't be any #'s unless they are set to the default group (PAWGRP). Nothing today.
When you get your replacement bridge, you're welcome to pass by here again and see if you can spot me.
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Thanks for the offer....I fitted the replacement the other day.....just doing some ground checks with it at the moment....So far so good.....I had a contact yesterday 7km away....so already improved.....
So if the PAWGRP has been changed that removes the # around the registration.....Is there any other way to then test the TRK file for a P3i transmission
Kind regards
Brinsley
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Is there any other way to then test the TRK file for a P3i transmission
Not unless Lee added something in the last software update...
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Hi All (and Dave)
I think this is the $PAWRT messages possibly messing up your parser ?
Thx
Lee
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Hi all,
yes, I forgot to mention it, the parser requires an update to read the new improved file format !
We'll see what can be done, but it will be next week.
cheers
Dave.
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Spotted one aircraft today, once in its way north and again as it returned. Range was about 8km to the east of Cambridge.
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I got one too. My furthest to date....9.4km. Three flying in formation through the Southend overhead one PAW equipped. I think there must have been a flyin on the south coast some where as they were all the same type of aircraft. I noticed one earlier on in the morning full ADSB out.
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A couple passed by today, one seen up to around 9kM.
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PAW Rx packets today 711. No info how many aircraft
out most of the day.
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Two again today, one 1.5km -> 1km -> 1.8Km so passing by
The second Initially 11.6Km, then a close pass 0.7km, finally disappearing at 8km. I think the last pass someone PM'd be about to check if the base station would be up. Will someone come forward with my base station name and claim a discount on a charger?
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How about 408915?
Brian
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How about 408915?
Brian
I'd have to check if that is my HEX ID when I power it all up tomorrow, didn't it show the name?
edit: Well, yes that would appear to be my HEX ID, after checking a screen shot I have on file. Are you claiming a discount code for a charger? Were you 406CB1 / FLYUK ?
edit: correct hex code
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Rx packets today 856.
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Hex = 406CB1 G-CIJO
Had P3I on routing to Cambridge ADSB via PAW on return to Sandy
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Hex = 406CB1 G-CIJO
Had P3I on routing to Cambridge ADSB via PAW on return to Sandy
Yes, my error, I have that in the log file showing G-CIJO and #FLYUK#.
$PFLAA,0,0,-11704,398,1,406CB1!G-CIJO,77,,29,,8*1E
$PFLAA,0,0,-11647,398,1,406CB1!#FLYUK#,76,,29,,8*31
Is your group id set to FLYUK?
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Yes group ID set to FLYUK was going to lend PAW to a friend going, now cant get FLYUK removed.
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Yes group ID set to FLYUK was going to lend PAW to a friend going, now cant get FLYUK removed.
Hi Brian
When you say remove, do you mean set to empty ?
Don't think that will work, but you could set back to the default
PAWGRP
Thx
Lee
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Will do that. Dont know why I hadnt thought of doing it
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Flight ID now reset to PAWGRP !
Screenshot of Jeremys Base station attached.
And yes Jeremy a discount code for a charger might come in handy !
Thanks Brian
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Flight ID now reset to PAWGRP !
Screenshot of Jeremys Base station attached.
And yes Jeremy a discount code for a charger might come in handy !
Thanks Brian
We have a winner, I'll send you a PM with a code you can use on the website.
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Flight ID now reset to PAWGRP !
Screenshot of Jeremys Base station attached.
And yes Jeremy a discount code for a charger might come in handy !
Thanks Brian
Hi Brian,
Sorry I'm being stupid
Your groupid should be PAWGRP
Your flightid should be G-CIJO
Sorry for the confusion
Thx
Lee
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Sorted :)
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Rx packets today 284.
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Rx packets today 219. All this morning
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Hi Lee
Really getting into the TRK breakdowns....furthest return today was 23km....So I guess that confirms there must have been some sort of issue with the previous Bridge..
Anyway I was following a flight just now and I know the owner of the PAW but was wondering what he has done in his setup as it was returning two sets of data....Pictures enclosed if that makes sense.....I have noticed a few other aircraft PAW equipped doing the same thing. The entries are in green at the top of the traffic table. First it reported it as GNULA then a hex code on the SkyDemon. Has he got the wrong transponder hex code in the PAW
Thanks for all your previous help with the Bridge.....as always a complete star !!
Kind regards
Brinsley
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Hi Brinzlee
It looks like he is ADSB and P3I equipped, BUT, using different ICAO codes
In fact, his transponder is set as 123456, which is most definitely wrong.
As far as I am aware, all uk codes are allocated as 4xxxxx.
This would explain 2 aircraft shown, I presume the PAW code is correct as it
Begins with a 4
Thx
Lee
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Hi Brinz,
4A276F isn't the right Hex code for G-NULA either.... and if as per G-INFO the aircraft is a CT2K microlight, I don't think the CAA would be amused at it squittering ADSB with the wrong ICAO code and a SDA level of 3. If you know the guy, perhaps a discrete word about his transponder / ADSB and PAW settings might be appreciated. Unless of course there is something else very strange going on.
Regards
Peter
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Thanks for the info.....I have just dropped him an email......I thought his days of low level illegal arms dealings were all behind him now.
He's a naughty boy....
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Actually the code 4A276F could be auto generated, rather than manually entered
As Peter says need to check what has been entered on Transponder and PilotAware
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Very few RX over the last week.
I wonder if anyone has any range information?
Thanks.
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What kind of information are you looking for Eric?
I'm guessing you already know about ADSB - up to well over 100 miles depending on your location and antenna position.
Mode S - depends on what range setting you have selected in (Config), but I have seen well over 50 miles in 'Testing' though couldn't run in that setting for long without unplugging the audio.
P3i up to 26 Kilometres in clear line of sight, but P3i is easily attenuated by buildings, aircraft body construction and big bags of water (aka - People). Unfortunately, operating from the ground you are likely to feel the effects of this more than if up in the air and need to optimise your receive antenna type and position. In practice, I have found P3i consistently reliable at up to around 10 miles - which is far further than any of us can see, but this can be subject to the vagaries of individual installations.
Keep up the good work.
Regards
Peter
Peter
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The distance from the ground to aircraft.
The P3i Tx aerial is outside on house roof with a clear view of the sky
so be interesting how far away it has been received.
Mode S and ADSB are no problem.
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If clear line of sight, the same rules apply
Peter
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Just modified my post 179 a little ambiguous.
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Noted :)
Peter
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Good day today. Rx 750. 500 this morning, 250 this evening.
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Was that from two aircraft? Total receives doesn't really tell you
How many PAW units are flying in you area. Post processor software could be adapted to do that.
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Sorry, out most of the day. Guess two aircraft.
I always look at Paw for an over-flight, only able to confirm one some time ago.
Four microlight sites and EGNH close by.
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Rx 240 today.
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Rx. Today 282.
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Rx today 346. All this evening.
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18.25 local today B51B48 PAW. Lost signal at 11.1 km.
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Rx today220
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Standard equipment.
I am now using the supplied aerial.
The unit is now in a plastic container with the
PAW aerial on the outside, still on the house roof.
Hopefully this will allow for more accurate range testing.
Only problem to far is the cpu running at 60degC
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Only problem to far is the cpu running at 60degC
Why do you say this is a problem ?
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On the roof in the sun, mabe getting to hot
and failing. 57C at the moment.
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Hi Eric,
I am not sure I am following your thread here.
On the roof in the sun, mabe getting to hot
and failing. 57C at the moment.
The CPU is rated up to 85 DegC, so 57 DegC is well within limits.
Can you explain in detail the failure you are referring to ?
Thx
Lee
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Sorry my only concern was possible overheating.
I was not aware up to 85degC was ok.
All working fine, no problems at all.
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Rx today 267 from one contact.
Hex and Reg B51B48
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RX today 506.
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Hi Eric,
You certainly seem to be getting more PAW activity these days. Keep up the good work.
Regards
Peter
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Rx today 259.
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Eric
Thanks keep up the good work.
I went for a bimble from Bidford in Warwickshire to staffordshire shropshire worcestershire and back again. Saw about 8 - 10 PAW contacts with one of then at 47Kms (we need to check this as it seems too good to be true even with my set up. Anyone out there transmitting 470265 in the Hex and Reg fields??).
So definitely a lot more out there to see.
Quite a few round Milson, Telford, Wolverhampton, Pound Green.
Getting more out there its working.
Great
Cheers
Keith
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Rx today 696. Maximum number received
in a day.
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Rx today 272.
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Ground station still operating, no Rx packets received in the
last 20 days.
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Hi Eric,
I guess the days are getting shorter and colder, so I would expect flying activity to go down, but nothing in 20 days almost sounds like you are being avoided! Not deliberately I'm sure!
I'm starting to 'see' more PAW equipped aircraft during recent flights around the Lothians, so they are definitely spreading further afield now. Keep up the reports.
Regards
Peter
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I've had quite a few PAW aircraft detected by my ground station in Guildford.
I'm plugged in to t'internet. Lee, can you see traffic from me?
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I've had quite a few PAW aircraft detected by my ground station in Guildford.
I'm plugged in to t'internet. Lee, can you see traffic from me?
Paul, message me your WAN IP address I will see if the server is being hit
Thx
Lee
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On maintenance at the moment.
I will post here when back on the air.
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Ground station back on the air, many
thanks to all at PilotAware.
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Welcome back Eric, you have been missed! ;) :)
Regards
Peter
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RX today 371.
EricC
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RX today 159
EricC
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RX today 78
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RX today 568. The maximum recorded range was 11.6km.
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RX today. 91 G-EXXL
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Rx. Today 28
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Rx. Today. 155
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Hi. Ground Station is operating every day
no Rx since last post.
Regards EricC
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Hi. Rx today 266.
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Hi RX today 185
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Rx today 130
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Hi Eric,
So on any particular day your figures show how many PAW equipped aircraft were flying?
So 130 PAW equipped aircraft detected on the 9th Feb?
Very good numbers!
Tony
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Tony,
Eric's figures show the number of P3i data packets received. These could be all from one aircraft. He would need to analyse the track files to determine the number of individual aircraft involved.
Regards
Peter
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Hi P3i data packets today. 529
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Hi P3i packets today 237.
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Hi P3i packets today 309.
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Hi. P3i packets today 284.
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Hi. P3i packets 10/03/17 59 11/03/17 46
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Hi P3i packets today 262.
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Hi. P3i packets today 377.
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Good WX here today lots of flying. P3i today 1097.
Just checked again P3i packets now 1517.
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Hi. P3i packets today 227.
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Hi. P3i packets today 397.
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Hi. P3i packets today 264.
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Hi Eric,
Activity levels are certainly getting up and pretty much reflecting the weather - as we would expect, though yesterday's total seems a bit low for such a good day. I flew from East Fortune over to Portmoak Gliding Centre and it was mobbed, with queues of gliders waiting to launch late morning. I was running my FlarmMouse integrated to my PAW, so saw loads of gliders aloft and when I was on final the PAW audio was going crazy. I flew back through the Edinburgh overhead to East Fortune and struggled to get parked for the number of our own and visiting aircraft (plus overspill cars) on the apron. A few PAW contacts on the way, but still far fewer than I would like to see for the number of aircraft out and about Guess we need to do a bit more advertising to get the message out to the World.
Regards
Peter
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There were certainly a load of gliders out yesterday. And paragliders and paramotors.
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Eric what airfield have you got your ground station based at ?
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5 NM NNE of EGNH (Blackpool) just south of Poulton VRP.
Three grass airfields close by, guess that is where most of the
traffic originates.
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P3i packets today 26
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P3i packets today 253.
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P3i packets today 437.
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P3i packets today 140.
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P3i packets today 459.
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P3i packets tday 256.
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P3i packets today 2.
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Hi Eric,
Presumably seeing plenty of non-P3i traffic though?
Peter
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P3i packets today 180.
Lots of adsb traffic, around 80 or so early morning.
Screen shot at around 18.20
Happy to mod base station to ogn if required.
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Hi Eric
Thats great
What is your Post Code
I will be providing information soon
Regards
Keith
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P3i packets today 93.
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P3i packets today 101.
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P3i packets today 672.
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P3i packets today 1512.
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P3i packets today 339.
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Packets today 1211.
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Packets today 739.
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P3i packets today 59.
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P3i packets today 31.
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P3i packets today 692.
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P3i packets today 71.
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P3i packets today 54.
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P3i packets today 71.
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P3i packets today 134.
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P3i packets today 29.
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P3i packets today 0.
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P3i packets today 0.
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P3i packets today 271.
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P3i packets today 0.
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P3i packets today 0.
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P3i packets today 474.
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P3i packets today 54.
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P3i packets today 324.
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P3i packets today 204.
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P3i packets today 296.
I have had no success connecting Pilot Aware to EasyVFR Basic.
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Hi Eric,
Check the tablet is connected to the PAW WiFi
Out of the box, EasyVFR won't work, so I had to change one setting.
Go into EasyVFR Menu>settings and scroll down to FLARM/PilotAware settings
In there check that the Use FLARM button is green
Change the WiFly Pin-Code to 6000
Click OK
then back
You may see a brief message about an inaccurate position, but that should clear and traffic appears on the map.
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All working correctly now thanks a million.
Stupidity on my part, I did not realise that the menu was a drop down variety.
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P3i packets today 419.
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P3i packets today 47.
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P3i packets today 1175.
Most from the Fly-In on Pilling Sands.
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P3i packets today 320.
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P3i packets today 759.
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With Project Propeller at Gloucester on Sunday with approx. 130 fly-ins are there any plans for a Ground Station to be in place there?
I would be interested to know the range of my transmissions with the current installation.
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P3i packets today 181.
I am sure the Pilot Aware team will answer your base station question.
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P3i packets today 8.
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P3i packets today 242.
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P3i packets today 212.
Updated to 20170619.
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P3i packets today 30.
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P3i packets today 333.
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P3i packets today. TX 2201 RX 320 CRC Fail 2
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P3i packets today. TX 23650. RX 159. CRC FAIL 2.
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P3i packets today. Tx 24431. Rx 145. CRCFAIL 1.
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P3i packets today. Tx. 26439. Rx. 288. CrcFail. 2.
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P3i packets today. TX=20968 RX=160 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today. TX=22724 RX=385 CRCFAIL=2
The maximum range seems to be about 11 km for Pi3 connection, and
about 22km for a light aircraft adsb at 2000 ft or so.
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P3i packets today.
TX=14961 RX=279 CRCFAIL=2
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P3i packets today.
Tx=29651 Rx=245 CrcFail= 0
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P3i packets today
TX=23238 RX=254 CRCFAIL=4
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P3i packets today.
TX=22306 RX=100 CRCFAIL=2
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Eric,
Nothing whatsoever moving up my way today due to attrocious weather. Keep up the reporting.
Regards as always
Peter
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Thanks Peter.
I will continue posting as long as required.
Regards EricC
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P3i packets today.
TX=24982 RX=34 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=24666 RX=72 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets, last 24 hours.
TX=44970 RX=364 CRCFAIL=30
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TX=16875 RX=164 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=28624 RX=312 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets tday.
TX=24417 RX=121 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=24756 RX=117 CRCFAIL=0
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TX=23786 RX=38 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=25998 RX=25 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i Packets today.
TX=23528 RX=565 CRCFAIL=5
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P3i packets today.
TX=21222. RX=107. CRC FAIL=0.
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P3i packets today.
TX=23854 RX=135 CRCFAIL=0
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Air Show today at Blackpool and tomorrow.
P3i packets today.
TX=25008 RX=202 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i Packets Today.
TX=25160. RX=448. CRCFAIL 4.
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P3i packets yesterday.
TX=25327 RX=214 CRCFAIL3
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P3i packets today.
TX=23285 RX=151 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22331 RX=45 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=21376 RX=25 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=23875 RX=456 CRCFAIL=23
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P3i packets today.
TX=27035 RX=66 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22781 RX=742 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=21150 RX=100 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=26181 RX=48 CR FAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=25575 RX=51 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets for 01 Sep.
TX=23282 RX=181 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22905 RX=71 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=21733 RX=31 CRCFAIL=0.
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P3i packets today.
TX=24516 RX=418 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=26327 RX=112 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22974 RX=342 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i Packets today.
TX=25527 RX=149 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=17458 RX=212 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22242 RX=123 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=27113 RX=77 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=20937 RX=57 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22505 RX=125 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
Tx=21879 RX=23 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22254 RX=31 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22068 RX=399 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets for 15th
TX=22708 RX=630 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=21836 RX=305 CRCFAIL=3
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P3i packets today.
TX=23037 RX=97 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX = 23815 RX = 355 CRCFAIL = 3
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P3i packets today.
TX=25580 RX=70 CRCFAIL=0
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I'm afraid this doen't mean a thing to me. Please explain.
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Straightline,
In the early days of PilotAware, there were relatively few units operational. These were spread very thinly across the country and only operational when users were testing or flying. This made it extremely difficult for new users to find other units to test their new installations against, so a few individuals - like Eric - volunteered to set up ground stations so that new users could find a reliable local station in a known, fixed location.
Eric has been running his station from his house near Blackpool since May 2016 and likes to keep us updated with regular reports of local PilotAware activity. Transmitted (TX) data 'packets' indicate level of activity from his station since the unit was last rebooted. As this is reported on a (roughly) daily basis, we would expect 'Transmitted data' figures to be relatively consistent, but nonetheless this confirms that the station has continued transmitting reliably. Of more significant interest, when compared on a day to day basis over a longer term and taking into account the effects of varying weather on flying, the RX - (Received) data 'packets' from other PilotAwares give a direct indication of increasing levels of PilotAware activity in the local area which reflects the significantly increased take up of a PilotAware across the UK.
It is important to note that the number of 'packets' received does not directly reflect the number of aircraft recorded, though this could if required be determined from an analysis of the station log files.
Although perhaps of lesser importance these days for 'testing' of new installations as PilotAware usage spreads across the UK, these stations continue to be excellent test beds to demonstrate long term reliability of the equipment used in the PilotAware system.
Hope this helps
Regards
Peter
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P3i packets today.
TX=17621 RX=541 CRCFAIL=0
Now ops on time clock. 07.00 to 22.00 Gmt.
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P3i packets for today
TX=23955 RX=56 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22665 RX=582 CRCFAIL2
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P3i packets today
TX=23894 RX=62 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=26737 RX=13 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i for today.
TX=26967 RX=6 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=22940 RX=213 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=25458 RX=1 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i Packets today.
TX=23864 RX=641 CRCFAIL=2
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P3i packets for today.
TX=23481 RX=202 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX= 21504 RX= 436 CRCAIL= 35
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P3i today.
TX=19609 RX=21 CRCFAIL=0
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Base station live 07.00 to 22.00Z every day.
I only post if RX packets received.
The total hours live is around 4500 with no faults.
Full marks the the Paw team.
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P3i packets today.
Tx=21131 Rx=116 CRCFAIL=0
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Eric,
may I ask a question?
What‘s the use of publishing all these numbers? Should I (as normal PAW user) be interested in them (if yes, why) or is this kind of data base for an analysis for Lee and the team?
BR
The other Eric
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Please see end of previous page (23).
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Thanks.
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P3i packets today
TX=17921 RX=374 CRCFAIL=17
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P3i packets today.
TX=24842 RX=106 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today
TX=24607 RX=112 CRCFAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
Tx=18512 Rx=725 CrcFail=0
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P3i packets today.
Tx=20548 Rx=159 CrcFail=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=20273 RX=192 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=19793 RX=584 CRCFAIL=1
Undated to 20180129 via ethernet cable no problems.
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P3i packets today.
TX=21711 RX=203 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=24621 RX=395 CRCFAIL=2
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P3i packets today
TX=24848 RX=259 CRCFAIL=2
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P3i packets today.
TX=23323 RX=559 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=23962 RX=698 CRCFAIL=20
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P3i packets today.
TX=22377 RX=108 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i today.
TX=27191 RX=43 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=21976 RX=24 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=24761 RX=98 CRCFAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=22945 RX=52 CRCFAIL= 0
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P3i packets today.
TX=24904 RX=73 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets today.
TX=24272 RX=514 CRC FAIL=1
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Hi Eric do you have this on a spreadsheet
Keith
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Hi Keith.
Sorry no spreadsheet, just post each evening if RX packets received.
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P3i Packets today.
TX=30472 RX=330 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets today.
TX=28634 RX=105 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets today.
TX=24734 RX=149 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i Packets today.
TX=23439 RX=155 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets today.
TX=25329 RX=508 CRC FAIL=2
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I saw one of these (ground station) pop up on the radar display for the first time a few days ago ... wondered what it was at first ...!
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Was it one of the OGN-PAW (Flarm) relays?
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Not sure from the display ... think it just said” G Stn” , along with the difference between it and my height .. it was at Gransden Lodge, fairly close to Bourn airfield...
That’s what I remember it displaying on sky demon .. I think the radar display had an icon shown too
I have seen a few OGN relays ,.... only on the radar display on the second iPad in the top right corner ...
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Yes, that will be an OGN station, so you would have been receiving data on FLARM equipped gliders as well. The will be annotated UP OGN rather than a call sign.
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P3i packets today.
TX=25463 RX=34 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX= 26068 RX=287 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets today
TX=23424 RX=370 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets for today.
TX=26983 RX=163 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets for today.
TX=27292 RX=92 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets for today.
TX=25341 RX=882 CRC FAIL=5
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P3i Packets for today.
Tx=24759 Rx=533 CRC Fail=2
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P3i packets for today. Record number of Rx packets today.
TX=25447 RX=1079 CRC FAIL 0
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P3i packets today.
Tx=28167 Rx=110 Crc Fail=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=25192 RX=617 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=26718 RX=567 CRC FAIL=15
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P3i packets for today.
TX=25091 RX=1164 CRC FAIL=12
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P3i packets for today.
Tx=26020 Rx=518 Crc Fail=0
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P3i packets for today
TX=26464 RX=71 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=24288 RX=83 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets for today.
RX=26638 RX=221 CRC FAIL=3
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P3i packets today.
TX=19266 RX=76 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=24525 RX=1538 highest number to-date. CRC FAIL= 24
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P3i packets today.
TX=24725 RX=728 CRC FAIL=17
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P3i packets today.
TX=23605 RX=34 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets for today.
TX=24529 RX=273 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26396 RX=85 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=24701 RX=46 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=21387 RX=166 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26045 RX=1383 CRC FAIL=4
By chance at around 16.30Z I viewed my Paw noticed G --GW out to 17.8km before the signal was lost.
I usually lose the PAW transmission around 12km.
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P3i packets for today.
TX=27080 RX=171 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26657 RX=11138 CRC FAIL=9
Received maximum range 25.1 km.
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11138?! :o
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Sorry finger trouble....RX=1138
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Checking we do read your posts :-)
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P3i packets for today.
TX=27569 RX=980 CRC FAIL=6
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26283 RX=74 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=27210 RX=2822 CRC FAIL=90
A new record for RX packets. May I ask what " CRC FAIL" actually means?
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"The cyclic redundancy check (CRC) is a technique used to detect errors in digital data. CRC is a hash function that detects accidental changes to raw computer data commonly used in digital telecommunications networks and storage devices such as hard disk drives....."
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In English it means that one of the messages was not in the correct formator did not meet a quality check, so was discarded. Most likely it was corrupted by a another transmission 'Stepped on', or was to weak a signal.
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Thanks for the info regarding CRC check.
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In English it means that one of the messages was not in the correct formator did not meet a quality check, so was discarded. Most likely it was corrupted by a another transmission 'Stepped on', or was to weak a signal.
From analysis I have done previously, this is due to a weak signal, so it tends to happen as the Aircraft is on the edge of good reception.
thx
Lee
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There you go Eric,
Just goes to show, people do read and take note of your posts.
Not that that was ever in doubt from the header....
Topic: Ground Station (Read 52194 times)
Keep up the good work!
Regards
Peter
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P3i packets for today.
TX=27860 RX=322 CRC FAIL=0
I guess most of the contacts yesterday came from aircraft landing on
the beach at Fleetwood/ Pilling Sands.
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Good to know lots of them were running PilotAware Eric.
Best Regards
Peter
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P3i packets today.
TX=25043 RX=735 CRC FAIL=51
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P3i Packets toay.
TX=26742 RX=123 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=27880 RX=211 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
TX=25701 RX=270 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=23695 RX=1166 CRC FAIL=1
Micro light aircraft, paw equipped only G-C--E visual and displayed on radar screen
mid afternoon. Mossedge in hex code box.
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P3i packets for today.
TX=24363 RX=275 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets today.
TX=25617 RX=1686 CRC FAIL=4
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Hi Eric have you got all this data on a spreadsheet. Can you convert to a graphical display over time?
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P3i packets today.
TX=27345 RX=225 CRC FAIL=2
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The only files I have are 38 tk files saved on the Paw sd card.
I guess these are no what you are looking for.
I am more than happy to help but my computer skills are very limited.
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P3i packets today.
TX=24508 RX=156 CRCFAIL=0
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Hi Eric
You are a star for doing this over such a long time. Supporter of the month. :) :) :) :) :) :)
I was wondering if I could use this data to draw a graph to see how it had grown.
Would you have the space to fit an OGN-R station if w provided the bits. Then you would have a permanent and daily record of Gliders and PAW
Keith
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Good Call Keith,
I have been thinking of this for a while, but didn’t know whether Eric would be interested. It would also help fill a noticeable gap in the North West (of Engerland). Eric has certainly shown consistency and definitely gets MY award for ‘sticking with it’ 🥇. Well done Eric.
Regards
Peter
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Hi Keith,
Entirely agree with your sentiments!
Are you able to shed some light on how an OGN-R station can provide a permanent and daily record of PAW and glider traffic please? I was hoping that my station would provide this but the OGN-PAW:8082 browser page only seems to list traffic when it is actually being received i.e. doesn’t store the info unless I take a screenshot! What I would like is to be able to inspect a listing of traffic received and any “rebroadcast” of glider trajectory, at the end of the day, on a daily basis. Is this possible yet or am I going about it the wrong way?
Thx,
Chris
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Hi Chris
This is possible, would you just want a list of ID's ?
Thx
Lee
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Hi Lee,
Yes, just a list of IDs and whether the glider/ PAW interaction triggered a Rebroadcast or how many rebroadcasts were made during any interaction. Pretty much like the existing page but data stored for later analysis, so you don’t have to keep looking at the screen and refreshing it because Firefox won’t Allow data updates. I guess date/ time would be useful as well. It’s really to confirm how effective your station is being, realistically, in providing a safety net.
Wouldn’t want to create lots of work for you or detract you from something more important!
Thx,
Chris
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P3i packets for today.
TX=29647 RX=58 CRC FAIL=3
Thanks guys for your kind words, I fell very proud.
Regarding the ONG station, yes that will be good.
I will send a picture of the mast which the OGM aerials can be installed.
Only connected to about 7Mbs download and 1.2Mbs upload, is this ok.
I will send a picture of the roof and mast, tomorrow.
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Roof mast for OGN aerial.
I thought maybe above the television aerial .
What is the maximum length for the coax cables?
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Hi Eric
Max length is about 10Metres. For the OGN you can actually us a USB extender.
If you put the pi in the Loft then 5 metres will be enough.
You need to put up 2 antennas though.
The internet is more than enough.
What is the antenna at the top not the YAGi
Keith
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Hi Keith
Prior to the internet, the antenna is question was for VHF Volmet WX.
l was able to check the WX from home before departing for Belfast in the C47 with the morning papers.
Regards Eric.
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P3i packets for today.
TX=29760 RX=544 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26676 RX=1004 CRC FAIL=6
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Just got PWAldersh back up and running as there should be quite a lot of activity in the next few weeks with the EGLF air show on, today’s run is showing as
P3I Packets OK=1302 NG=0
I don’t know how to get the separate TX / RX figures that Eric gives, but at least it is working, I will try to improve the PW antenna in the next week if I can.
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P3i packets for today.
TX=28590 RX=1055 CRCFAIL=5
Hi Ben the figures are from the home page. 192.168.1.1
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Eric,
Thanks for that, however that doesn’t appear to work with the standard OGNPAW ground station, the only ports appear to be 8080, 8081, 8082 (the PAW stats) and 3013 (basestation output) no homepage on the Pi that I can find.
Ben.
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Eric is using a PilotAware, not OGN-R station. Different animals.
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P3i packets for today.
TX=25617 RX=1686 CRC FAIL=4
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P3i packets for today.
TX=22416 RX=4 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26415 RX=139 CRC FAIL.=0
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P3i Packets for today.
TX=27424 RX=768 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets for today.
TX=28404 RX=885 CRC FAIL=6
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P3i Packets for today.
TX=25449 RX=160 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets for today.
TX=24078 RX=276 CRC FAIL=3
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P3i packeys today.
TX=26482 TX=151 CRC FAIL=2
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P3i packets today.
TX=27016 RX=74 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets today.
Tx=25014 Rx=1013 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26871 RX=58 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=25467 RX=1077 CRC FAIL=18
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P3i packets today.
TX=26352 RX=20 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets today
TX=26366 RX=546 CRC FAIL=3
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P3i packets for today.
The majority of the RX pulses are from a helicopter pleasure
flying around the Blackpool area. G-***V
TX=25119 RX=2150 CRC FAIL=6.
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P3i packets today.
TX=28232 RX=877 CRC FAIL=5
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P3i packets today.
TX=22544 RX=114 CRCFAIL=2
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P3i packets for today.
Tx=25483 RX=845 CRC FAIL=1
Checking on EasyVFR basic my ground station TX/RX symbol is an aeroplane.
Can I change this?
I have spoken to the helicopter pilot pleasure flying around Blackpool,
he confirmed my findings.
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Hi Eric,
I don’t think you can change the symbols in EVFR. I think it’s programmed so that OGN-R ground stations show up as an antenna mast ( inverted Y ) but I think your ground station maybe is still a standard PAW traffic unit? That will show up as an aircraft! You could try asking Rob Weijers the question via the PocketFMS EVFR forum.
With Sky Demon, even the OGN stations show as aircraft as was highlighted on another thread; not sure about other Nav Apps?
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Thanks for the info. I am seriously considering setting up a OGM station to resolve the situation.
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You will save yourself a licence fee each year :)
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P3i packets for today.
TX=27018 RX=199 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=24621 RX=482 CRC FAIL=3
Will I retain the same functionality when I change to a OGM station?
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P3i packets for today.
TX=23396 RX=305 CRC FAIL=0
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Hi Eric,
The functionality of an OGN-R Ground Station is different from the standard PAW unit that you are currently operating as a ground station. It’s purpose is to provide an important safety facility to other PAW users who otherwise would not be able to “see” Flarm or OGN (broadly the same animal) targets as they transmit on a slightly different frequency from PAW. The alternative would be for all PAW users to integrate a Flarm Mouse into their systems which ain’t gonna happen given the cost of Flarm equipment.
With your present Ground Station you are able to produce the reception data that you post and view ADS-B and PAW targets on your tablet Nav screen or via the PAW Radar embedded in browser. Your station will appear as a static aircraft to anyone in range on their PAW.
With an OGN-R Rebroadcast Station the station collects relevant data (GPS position, speed, height, flight ID etc) from aircraft using the Flarm and rebroadcasts it real-time on the PAW frequency to any PAW aircraft within range. It also feeds data on both Flarm and PAW aircraft to the OGN servers via an internet connection, so you and others can see the aircraft data and tracks via glidertracker sites such as glidertracker.org etc. I believe that OGN also supply this data to third party apps such as FR24 etc. The system produces reception data on these contacts but in a more complex way as there is no home screen as you are used to with your PAW. The system doesn’t give you visibility of ADS- B contacts, but if these are of interest just view them via any flight tracking site such as FR24, ADS-B exchange or uk.flightaware.com
Regards,
Chris
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P3i packets for today.
TX=25530 RX=21 CRC FAIL=0
Thanks to Moffrestorer for a detailed explanation regarding the OGN.
If there is a gap in OGM in my area I am prepared to install one.
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Hi Eric,
I wouldn’t imagine you would get an awful lot of ‘FLARM/OGN’ Traffic in your neck of the woods, but as I have said previously, you are in a good location to help extend the OGN-R network northwards, and you have more than demonstrated your ongoing commitment to PilotAware. If you haven’t yet done so, have a read at the installation / upgrade documentation in the OGN-R Section of the Forum here....
http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/board,9.0.html
...which will give you an idea what is involved. If you decide that you do want to come on board, I would be happy to pop down from Edinburgh and help you get things set up properly and I’m sure Keith would help with the necessary additional hardware. Drop me a PM via the Forum if you do want to go ahead.
Regards
Peter
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P3i packets for today.
TX=27544 RX=267 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=28404 RX=885 CRC FAIL=6
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P3i packets for today.
TX=28172 RX=159 CRC FAIL=1
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P3i packets for today.
TX=28174 RX=76 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=26414 RX=117 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i Packets for today.
TX=28142 RX=175 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=17785 RX=376 CRC FAIL=2
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P3i packets for today.
TX=23916 RX=429 CRC FAIL=3
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..some of those would've been me … handy spot given what else is around there and how busy it gets ... :)
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P3i packets for today. (Off the air a few times today)
TX=9977 RX=1271 CRC FAIL=8
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P3i packets for today.
TX=29040 RX=1503 CRCFAIL=3
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P3i packets for today.
RX corrected figure. OGN-R Tx removed from total.
TX=24811 RX=94 CRC FAIL=0
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P3i packets for today.
Tx=25515 Rx corrected 294 CRC FAIL 0
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P3i packets for today.
TX=25970 RX corrected =762. CRC FAIL=7
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The OGN-R Station PWPOULTON has been live for approximately two weeks.
The PAW is now RX only.
I can reset toTX/RX if anyone wishes to carry out a PAW range/system checks.
If required call me on 07905336066.
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Not sure it is wise to put a phone number in the post. A PM should be enough if people think 24hrs ahead?