Author Topic: Is my Pie Bust?  (Read 19886 times)

Richard

Is my Pie Bust?
« on: February 27, 2025, 07:54:26 pm »
I'm having problems with my Rosetta. I just cant log into the setup page. This is the current history. Sub scription renewed no problem key entered manually. Updated by the iPhone app to current version. I can see the Pilotaware on iPad And set to wifi no problem. But I just can not log into the Setup Page 192.168.1.1 So full card format new install completed red and green flashing no problem. Wifi connected to Rosetta but still can not log into setup page. I just cant find the problem. Cany you help?

Richard
Richard.
Europa XS

steveu

Re: Is my Pie Bust?
« Reply #1 on: February 27, 2025, 09:16:56 pm »
If you plug an HDMI cable with screen in, does the device finish its boot up sequence?

exfirepro

Re: Is my Pie Bust?
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2025, 01:09:47 am »
Hi Richard,

You say 'Subscription Renewed No Problem' - but from previous posts back in December on another thread you were obviously having issues trying to renew your subscription and stated that you did not receive the expected email containing the new licence key. I advised you at the time to get in touch with Ashley at 'support@pilotaware.com', and to let us know on here if/when that issue was resolved, but I hadn't see any response to that request - other than the comment 'Subscription renewed no problem.' above.

Are you now confirming that you did this and received your new Licence Key, and that the NEW Key was entered AND SAVED in the PAW Configure screen - and resulted in a confirmation of the new (2025) expiry date being displayed on the Home and Configure Screens BEFORE you attempted to update to the most recent software version via the iPhone App. (If so that might point us to an issue with the subsequent update via the iOS Updater App).

You now say that after updating... 'by the iPhone app to the current software version, I can see the PilotAware on iPad and set to WiFi no problem, but couldn't log into the setup page 192.168.1.1.' Can you confirm that you mean you were seeing your PilotAware WiFi Hotspot on the WiFi list on your iPad and connecting your iPad to it, but couldn't then connect to 192.168.1.21 in your browser? If so, were you getting a 'WiFi Lock' confirmed by a blue 'tick' at the left hand side of the Hotspot Name on your iPad WiFi Screen?

When you typed in 192.168.1.1 in your URL bar, did your browser add anything else - like http:// or Config or anything similar? iOS devices often do this as the software is trying to access a source with internet access. If it was doing this it will NOT connect to PAW unless you first delete your browsing history and reboot the tablet.

You go on to say... 'So full card format new install [was] completed - red and green flashing no problem.' First question - how did you reformat the card? You need to do a 'Full Overwrite' reformat with size adjustment 'On' using SDFormatter. A simple reformat using for example a windows tool won't ddo the job. Next - Unfortunately you don't indicate which red and green - there are TWO pairs of LEDs in Rosetta - one pair on the main board under the P3i antenna connection (only visible with care through the slots in the side of the unit at the antenna end), which indicate the power and disc status. Of these, the 'Power LED' should show a constant steady red and the immediately adjacent 'Disc LED' should show briefly steady then intermittent green during the software unpacking and boot sequence (which from a brand new install can take up to 20 minutes) and then go out. Any power interruption during this initial partitioning and unpacking sequence after a full reinstall is likely to corrupt the card. A second set of two LEDs towards the opposite end near the 3.5mm audio jack socket will then flash in a sequence of red / green to show if and when the various Bridge functions become active, eventually settling as a single solid green unless any of the functions subsequently drop out.

The fact that you say that you are seeing your PilotAware WiFi on your iPad WiFi list after boot-up, should indicate that your Rosetta is booting properly and that the WiFi is transmitting its hotspot, but check that it is YOUR PilotAware WiFi that you are seeing (especially if at the airfield). With a new or reinstall, it will display as 'PilotAware' plus the 12 digit MAC address of your Rosetta (beginning B827EB... which you can check against the label on the end case of the unit).  As Steve has advised, however, the best way to determine if the unit is booting correctly is to temporarily connect it to a monitor (or TV) via an HDMI cable and observe the progress of the software during the boot sequence. If working correctly, from first power-up of a new install, you should see the unit partitioning the hard disk and unpacking the software - which takes 10 to 15 minutes, then a rainbow flash screen, followed by a long series of text lines scrolling down the screen, with several pauses as the system configures itself and the various individual functions are activated, but NO FAILURE MESSAGES - and ending with a 'login' prompt. If the unit has already 'unpacked' you should just get the rainbow screen and software sequence to the 'login' prompt. You don't actually 'log in', but reaching this point without failure messages indicates that the boot sequence has completed properly and the unit should now have produced its MAC-based WiFi Hotspot and started the various bridge functions - though some of these may flash red until a full GPS lock has been established, which may not occur indoors. As long as you are seeing YOUR PilotAware WiFi Hotspot on your tablet, phone or laptop WiFi list, that indicates that the boot sequence has completed and you should now be able to connect one (or multiple) devices to the unit. Can you confirm that you are reaching this point please.

If this is the case, and you are still struggling to get your device to connect, can you try connecting with another device (apple, android, windows or Mac and let me know what happens. If this works, try telling your original device to 'Forget' the PAW WiFi, then delete your search history from the device and try a fresh reboot of the device.

Sounds obvious, but you also need to make sure that your device WiFi is turned on and active (i.e. NOT for example on Airplane Mode). On iOS devices, this is usually checked by swiping down from the top right hand corner of the device Home Screen. Newer iOS (and Android devices now also actively try to prevent connection to devices which they see as 'potentially insecure', which can require special permission to be allowed. I will go into this further if it arises.

Please let me know how you get on with the above and whether or not it helps. Sorry it's a bit complicated, but this will help narrow down the options  :-\

Best Regards

Peter
« Last Edit: February 28, 2025, 09:04:33 am by exfirepro »

Richard

Re: Is my Pie Bust?
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2025, 06:38:13 pm »
Progress has been made. I have managed to connect to iPhone and enter all details and Key, No Problem.

The problem now seems to be that it will not connect to iPad Mini Gen2 (I know I need an upgrade) but its all worked perfectly up to the new Pilotaware Update. Connection to home Wifi works fine browsing web no problem. Changed to wifi Pilotaware hotspot and unable to open setup pages. I will take it back to the aircraft next week as all antennas are there so I can not fully test here at home.

Richard
Richard.
Europa XS

Richard

Re: Is my Pie Bust?
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2025, 06:45:20 pm »
You say 'Subscription Renewed No Problem' - but from previous posts back in December on another thread you were obviously having issues trying to renew your subscription and stated that you did not receive the expected email containing the new licence key. I advised you at the time to get in touch with Ashley at 'support@pilotaware.com', and to let us know on here if/when that issue was resolved, but I hadn't see any response to that request - other than the comment 'Subscription renewed no problem.' above.

Richard

Aggreged I should have updated you but I was still having problems in connecting the PA and I may still have a problem. so its ongoing at the moment. The Product Key works fine and It shows the correct expire date. After the full reinstall this is the first time I have managed to enter the product key. Progress is being made. I just need to test back at the aircraft.

Richard
« Last Edit: February 28, 2025, 06:47:08 pm by Richard »
Richard.
Europa XS

steveu

Re: Is my Pie Bust?
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2025, 08:01:17 pm »
Progress has been made. I have managed to connect to iPhone and enter all details and Key, No Problem.

The problem now seems to be that it will not connect to iPad Mini Gen2 (I know I need an upgrade) but its all worked perfectly up to the new Pilotaware Update. Connection to home Wifi works fine browsing web no problem. Changed to wifi Pilotaware hotspot and unable to open setup pages. I will take it back to the aircraft next week as all antennas are there so I can not fully test here at home.

Richard

You need to be wary if using the PAW at home and connecting it to your home router. 192.168.1.1 is often the router's own address, and an IP conflict can occur.

Additionally if the iPad changes back to your home Wifi and the router is on 192.168.1.1 it may not access it but not say it is not there?

A lot of Apple stuff needs to be told to stay on a network with no internet access, rather than auto connect to something else...

Is the iPad trying to connect to an https URL as Peter warned about?

If another device can connect correctly to the PAW and show pages, and the iPad does not, then the iPad is faulty or its IP set up is incorrect...

Richard

Re: Is my Pie Bust?
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2025, 06:32:44 pm »
@exfirepro Peter,
              Finally got to test again back in the air. There is still a fault and it seems to be the WIFI connection to iPhone and iPad Mini showing same problem.

 Before flight and taxi Pilotawre was connected to iPhone but not iPad. All was well for about 10 mins on iPhone but I could not get connection to iPad. Checked for connection On Bothe devices under settings and it showed no WIFI connection. Pilot Aware not showing or not found or listed. Still on the ground and not connected to any other network, then iPhone also dropped the connection. So now not connected to any device.

In flight I'm getting all the correct reports over audio from the pilot aware, so it is actually working fine and reporting other aircraft correctly proving the new install is correct.

As I had already inputted the setup page of the pilot aware at home before taking it back to the aircraft I was happy the correct key and expiry date are all OK.

It is as though its an intermittent WIFI problem. What are your thoughts?

I have it turned back on here at home and is connected correctly. this is a complete mystery.

In Hope
Richard

P.S.

Steve,
     Yes It boots up fine, right up to the login after monitoring on HDMI. I can at first Log into PA setup pages for about 10mins then it drops out and the unable to conect. (No WIFI from PA. I'm convinced its something to do with the PI but don't have another to test with. The same thing happens on iPhone and 2 X iPads.

I've decide its time for an upgrade instead of buying another PI to eliminate that possible problem. FX is now ordered and hopefully arrive early in the week.

It a shame the Exchange is not avalabe or i would have sent it back for the team to check it over. I suppose I could have sent it back for cheeking but decided an up grade was the way to go. I have a few questions about the FX which will be asked in the correct thread.

I think I can now say now Resoled but unknown issue.

Thanks for the help.
« Last Edit: March 23, 2025, 01:02:47 pm by Richard »
Richard.
Europa XS