iGRID - Two devices required?

[steveu]

2) if “hotspot over the cable” is not an option and my ipad has a sim, can I use just that ipad to get traffic and to be a hotspot at the same time?

If it can act as a hotspot and client, then yes
Not all devices support this

I think that this cannot be over emphasised, not all devices will support this and if there's a problem, a very cheap dedicated device, either an older phone no longer used or a very small mobile broadband router like the Huawei which is not much bigger than a custard cream can be used. This simplifies things in that it only needs to be turned on and off before and after flight, with the PAW linked only to that hotspot.

3GB of data on a service like GiffGaff will set you back £8.



ScoureBay for something second hand, but don't forget to buy unlocked...

[neilld]

"...the PAW will act as a router and allow all the devices on its WiFi network to see the Internet."
Just installed the latest software and configured WiFi dongle etc and all works from the PAW point of view (Radar screen shows rain, POI etc.) except that my tablet does not appear to see the internet.
My setup is Android 4G phone hotspot, PAW, Android tablet.
Am I missing a setup item somewhere?

DFN
Ignore this - just found the "Router" option in "Network" page which was disabled by default. All now OK

[rogerabc]

Dear Lee,

The GSM iPad can share its internet connection via wifi, bluetooth or USB.

Would the PAW accept a such data connection via bluetooth or usb?

Does the PAW require separate data in & data out connections?

Thanks,

Roger

[Admin]

Hi Roger

The GSM iPad can share its internet connection via wifi, bluetooth or USB.
Would the PAW accept a such data connection via bluetooth or usb?

Bluetooth, its a possibility but, we would have to do significant work to support this - maybe for the future
USB, the problem here is that it draws additional power via the USB socket, which can cause issues

Does the PAW require separate data in & data out connections?

Not sure I understand this question could you elaborate ?

thx
Lee

[rogerabc]

could you elaborate ?

Yes, if the iPad has an internal cellular internet connection and is also connected to the primaryPAW wifi. Will data flow in both directions (ie Skygrid from PAW to iPad, iGrid from iPad to PAW)?

I'm just trying to get to the nub of this thread's title.

For simplicity can full functionality be achieved with just a GSM iPad & PAW?

Thank you for such a great system.

[russp]

could you elaborate ?

Yes, if the iPad has an internal cellular internet connection and is also connected to the primaryPAW wifi. Will data flow in both directions (ie Skygrid from PAW to iPad, iGrid from iPad to PAW)?

I'm just trying to get to the nub of this thread's title.

For simplicity can full functionality be achieved with just a GSM iPad & PAW?

Thank you for such a great system.

You're asking the same question I asked at the beginning of the thread - the answer is for my ipad mini4 the ipad can send data in both directions via the single wifi connection if you set it up as a mobile hotspot. I'd suspect it will work fine with any modern(ish) iOS device with a SIM card in. It's clear from what's been said here that it doesnt work reliably on android. If you're on Apple you almost certainly only need one device to take advantage of this. HTH. 

[rogerabc]

Thanks Rus,

Normally a computer network connection works in both directions.
That appears not to be the case from your test & I wondered if Lee could shed any light on that.
It seems unnecessary to have two wifi networks in order for two devices to share data.

Regards

[steveu]

It seems unnecessary to have two wifi networks in order for two devices to share data.

It may be unnecessary but we're just doing what works, as Lee has designed it.

You could always trial it with just the one network and report back?

[russp]

Thanks Rus,

Normally a computer network connection works in both directions.
That appears not to be the case from your test & I wondered if Lee could shed any light on that.
It seems unnecessary to have two wifi networks in order for two devices to share data.

Regards

No I think my test shows that it does work in both directions - there is only one wifi connection as far as I can tell.

[Admin]

Thanks Rus,

Normally a computer network connection works in both directions.
That appears not to be the case from your test & I wondered if Lee could shed any light on that.
It seems unnecessary to have two wifi networks in order for two devices to share data.

Regards

Aaahh, you would think so wouldn't you
There are two modes of operation for the wifi setup
AP (Access Point) - this is the client that attaches to a router
STA (Station) - this is a router that allows incoming connections from clients

It is possible with some WiFi devices to have a simultaneous AP+STA operation
I experimented with this setup, and its performance was simply not good enough, it appeared to time division multiplex the operations, to the point where it was not sufficiently adequate, hence why we are using 2 WiFi devices.

thx
Lee

[rogerabc]

Thanks Lee & Russ,

I'm also getting 4 greens with 1 device.
Some good weather returns yesterday!

[Admin]

Thanks Lee & Russ,

I'm also getting 4 greens with 1 device.
Some good weather returns yesterday!

Its good innit 
Who would dare post this info on the Flyer Forum 

[steveu]

Thanks Lee & Russ,

I'm also getting 4 greens with 1 device.
Some good weather returns yesterday!

Its good innit 
Who would dare post this info on the Flyer Forum 

Welcome to the (Flyer Forum) Augean Stables. Anyone fancy being Hercules for a bit?

You'll need a fast, free flowing river to wash out all the bovine excrement, or in simple language, bull xxxx.

The cows are sacred, BTW, which is why they produce so much xxxx.

It's too big a labour for the ordinary mortal... 

[PaulSS]

What PAW says versus looking out of the square window 

For the sharp-eyed, the GSM had only just turned amber, so the weather info was up-to-date.

[Admin]

Fyi, if the weather is out of date it is removed, independent of whether gsm is active or not
Thx
Lee