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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: November 29, 2016, 10:20:44 pm »

Peter
   Thank you. I don't want to fly too close to a know glider site but passing at safe distance. I will enquirer at our club to see if anyone has a FLARM device as a starting point. As for perfect antenna location, the supply FLARM antenna with the redbox is not Upto the job so I have now gone to an external under side mounted on a ground plane along side the PAW antenna see pic. All ready for some flight testing. The ground plane plate has replace the composite inspection cover so was easy to do without making any unnecessary holes for the antennas.

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: November 29, 2016, 06:29:19 pm »

Lee/Peter,
      Sorry for the contusion over the "P" & "F" I have just booked an appointment at the local opticians Results to follow......

All your comments have been noted. GSOBI fly's very regular I will try to repeat the situation and record more Info.

Lee, What is the best way to capture the data from my FLARM redbox when flying for looking at when landed to see if the info is being  received correctly to PAW? Currently two flights to known glide areas have not displayed any FLARM gliders so far but both days where not good gliding weather.

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General Discussion / Re: PA28, C172, C182 remote aerial install

« on: November 29, 2016, 09:08:02 am »

Peter, Sorry I got the price wrong  it was £18.10 it will crimp the small inner pin then the outer crimp too putting on good quality Glued heat shrink

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/391483809348?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

Sorry I cant help with the eyesight   

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General Discussion / Re: PA28, C172, C182 remote aerial install

« on: November 29, 2016, 08:17:06 am »

Just a note on the sma extention, if you order one please check it with a ohms meter the one I received from eBay had a fault in the the centre pin and outer where in contact so it could have damaged the PAW bridge, and it also would have not worked in operation.

Shortening the extensions is easy with the correct crimps (around £15) and  new sma (£2.50) you will also need good eyesight too.

The above antenna mounting ideas are very good keep the ideas coming it all helps others on the same quest.

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: November 27, 2016, 09:41:25 pm »

Finally got to do some ground test of FLARM redbox today. Also by luck there was an aircraft with FLARM installed and in the air.

Just to report, with my (GIRPW) aircraft on the ground with PAW turned on and ADSB transponder turned off. The picture below was taken from my testing PAW from the club house. The picture shows my FLARM working at the top indicating 64ft which is correct for Sherburn, GSOBI was in the air and indicating  1225 ft from his FLARM and  1397ft from his mode CS. Which one is correct?

My test PAW is using the latest version, the one in the aircraft is using the FLARM engineering version for testing.

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Technical Support / Re: 12v to 5 v power supply

« on: November 04, 2016, 10:39:22 pm »

The 12v output sounds like a good idea. It would help if someone wanting to power FLARM Mouse or Redbox from a 28v aircraft. 

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Technical Support / Re: 12v to 5 v power supply

« on: November 04, 2016, 07:34:19 pm »

Jeramy
    Did you ever test the above? What are the results?

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: October 31, 2016, 08:15:29 am »

Peter
    I also took PAW and FLARM for a test flight yesterday, also having a fault. The GPS dropped connction. Once settled in to flight it appears it lost power dew to small vibration on takeoff and the 12v plug moving slightly in the aircraft 12v output. We had low cloud 1700 ft at best so returned to the club and had coffee. Further test are planned.   

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General Discussion / Re: "All-In" case

« on: October 29, 2016, 03:27:46 pm »

All,
   Just an update on the Fan test... It has no effectt on the pressure sensor at all.
 Took note of the pressure before staring the fan, After running there is no change to the indicated pressure in the home page, stopping the fan and letting it settle and still no change. Also checking publish Pressure from Leeds/Bradford reading exactly the same. The conclusion is a fan can be added with no problems to report.

The Case is still a Prototype but the fan is 5v USB powered from Charge2 which is also powering the PAW
Charge2 is 12v to 28v so allows it to be powered in a 28v aircraft. (A Question from another Member) BUT the FLARM RedBox is 12V so running both from a 28V aircraft is not an option. There must be a way around this I'm sure.  The Fan may be better run on 12V from the power supply internal as the 5V Fan is a little noisy like a Computer. I found the 12v 40mm Fan much quieter but is a different make. Once used in the aircraft you will not hear the fan over the engine.

I have Added a volume to the front of the case this simply allows me to turn PAW voice down if required with ease. There is no Audio Amp. The case looks very tidy with out the FLARM RedBox on top, But i'm designing for fitting behind the aircraft panel out of sight.

The FLARM still needs to be updated Once a Year, It would be nice to be able to do this via the USB through PAW. Lee, can this be possible?

The front panel has also got a USB access for the Updates which allows it to stay in the aircraft.

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: October 26, 2016, 08:40:30 pm »

Alan,
   That's Really Good news... Thanks for taking the time in your tests. Ones I set everything in the aircraft I will also publish my findings too.

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: October 26, 2016, 08:01:17 am »

Please don't hide this discussion! I am on the verge of buying a mouse to assist in the testing programme - my biggest challenge is finding a safe way to power the mouse from my 28V aircraft.

I'm also keen to find a way to make a box that holds all of the elements (GPS/mouse, WiFi dongle, ADS-B dongle, bridge, two aerials) and replaces the shoddy micro-USB power connector so that a neat one box solution exists with just one power cable visible that can easily be Velcro'd into almost any aircraft, permit or CofA.

You and me are thinking alike. I currently have a prototype of such a case you mention it can be power from 12 to 28 v including fan cooling. You may be better with the LX FLARM redbox. If you can hang on a little longer for the testing of the redbox it may be a better soulution. I will post the info on the case info. thread latter when I get all the info together. It may help you.

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: October 25, 2016, 07:53:42 am »

Alan
   Sorry I mis-read the strings.... yes I only get $pflau string. It was late and I needed my bed...

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: October 24, 2016, 10:24:49 pm »

Alan,
    At home I'm nowhere near any FLARM traffic so testing at home for positive targets is a nonstarter., but looking at the strings in hypeterminal I see the $pflaa strings along side the GPS position strings but no actual traffic to report. Do you get the empty $pflaa strings?

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: October 24, 2016, 09:53:58 pm »

Richard, unfortunately I am not using any "supplied" cables, I just have the box and made my own Farnell USB to RJ11 connector cable.
I'm not sure what manual you are looking at but the one I got off the net seems correct;
pin 1 RJ11 (is white in mine) and goes to pin 5 RS232
pin 2 RJ11 is black and goes to pin 3 RS232   (from RJ11 RX) to RS232 Tx
pin 3 RJ11 is red and goes to pin 2 RS232      (from RJ11 Tx) to RS232 Rx

I have 2 different Flarm display leads (from a previous installation) with RJ11 each end and the colour code wires are completely different colours  on each cable so you cannot go by colour you have to visually look and better still ohm meter up to find what pins 1 2 and 3 are connected to on the open end.

I'm not sure what you are actually seeing on the RJ11 to Dsub, but to work it certainly should be wired as a Xover i.e. pin 2 to 3 and pin 3 to 2
hope this helps,
regards
Alan

Alan,
   Thank you for your help. I'v sorted it now and all working OK. I'm at the same stage as you and need to find another FLARM device to test. Let us know how you go with your test.

The problem I had was confusion    LX supply me with a rj11 to 9SubD  This is wired the wrong way which made testing impossible. Now the USB to RS232 cable arrive simply checking the wiring and following your connection All is good.

Thanks again.

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General Discussion / Re: FL*RM Integration - Beta Testers

« on: October 23, 2016, 09:46:53 pm »

Update on my Redbox to PAW integration.
I used the USB/RS232 cable from Farnell (USB-RS232-WE-1800-BT-0.0 CABLE, USB A - RS232, SERIAL CONVERTOR). Cheaper ones can be found on e-bay but I used this because previous reports that it worked ok with Flarm mouse.
Pin 1 from Flarm RJ45 is ground (white) and was connected to black on RS232 cable. Pin 3 from Flarm is Tx data (red) and was connected to yellow on RS232 cable. Pin 2 from Flarm is Rx data (black) and was connected to orange on RS232 cable.
In PAW configuration screen on iPad Port 2 was set to Flarm In and 19200 rate, (Redbox must use 19200 to talk to Flarm display indicator).
The gps signal seems to be working and PAW starts ok and talks to SkyDemon displaying ADSB aircraft and Mode C/S rings ok.
I don't seem to be seeing any Flarm traffic on the Skydemon display which is a puzzle but Flarm traffic is short range and in my home test set up it could be none are in range.
Continuing investigation.
Can anyone else confirm that the latest PAW software is seeing and displaying Flarm traffic from a Flarm receiver ??
regards
Alan

Alan
    As I'm awaiting delivery of my USB RS232 from Farnel, I have been looking at the 9pin DubD plug on the end of the Power suply I purchased with the Redbox (http://lxavionics.co.uk/lxcart/index.php?route=product/product&path=102_111&product_id=362) This is what I'm using for the FLARM Redbox updated via my PC. I don't have a Serial Port on my PC so I'm using an old Serial to USB converter. OK this works for the FLARM Updates no problem.
  Also supplied is a straight rj11 to 9pin Sub D this should be wired as described in the user manual BUT it is not and does not match the Diagram in the manual This cable will not work for the updates of the Redbox It looks like the builder of the cable is color blind or the configuration in the manual is incorrect ?
   Checking the wiring in first powered cable I described above, This is also different. The TX and RX are on different pins on the rj11 to the 9pin SubD. Both of the subD plugs use the same pins for G5 TX2 & RX3 it is the rj11 which are different.
  This is very difficult to explain in this text But my main Question is can you check the Plugs you have been supplied and a comparison to wiring diagram in the manual.