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General Discussion / Re: PAW and no nav software?
« on: June 14, 2017, 08:41:25 am »
In between other life demands and mulling this over I stumbled across this post from jcross: http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,807.msg10729.html#msg10729
Now that looks interesting! And JCurtis's post on page 1 of this thread suggests it should have no effect on my compass which could make the white space above viable for a display. The rest of the hardware would have to be located elsewhere, though, as others have done.

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General Discussion / Re: PAW and no nav software?
« on: May 23, 2017, 10:10:46 am »
For completeness I thought I'd post a picture of my panel. That white space above the compass was my hope but I really can't afford to disable the compass. As you can see, I am tight for space.

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General Discussion / Re: PAW and no nav software?
« on: May 21, 2017, 05:13:02 pm »
I use ... my small Samsung Galaxy S3 smartphone.
... mounted on the instrument panel more or less in line of sight where I would be looking out.
No magnets in the smartphone!
Tony
Tony, your last assertion surprised me so, while I don't have a smartphone, today I had a couple of friends place theirs, an iPhone and a Samsung, at the top of the panel where I think it would be best placed and both affected the compass every bit as much as my iPod did.
Perhaps you fly a side-by-side 2/4 seater and 'on the panel more or less in line of sight' is 300-400mm west of the compass. I'm single seat so the compass is top dead centre.

RF3flyer, you should be flying eyes out the vast majority of the time.
Absolutely! No argument there.

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General Discussion / Re: PAW and no nav software?
« on: May 19, 2017, 06:50:57 am »
In the hangar yesterday I was giving some thought to where I might mount a display and frankly, I'm stumped.
To reiterate, I don't have a tablet and I don't have a navigation app, so considering only the Radar display on something small I thought I could mount it at the top of the coaming convenient to see. I don't even have a smart phone so for purposes of evaluation I used my iPod touch but found it put a hefty swing into the compass directly below. Moving it out of influence it would obscure something more fundamental or end up so far off any normal line of sight as to be not useful.

How do others work with PAW? I expect most people will see it as an overlay on a navigation app but are they then always looking at a tablet screen either on their kneepad or on a yolk mount or something? That's not how I fly. Or are they relying on the voice alerts lo look in?

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General Discussion / Re: PAW and no nav software?
« on: May 14, 2017, 11:10:05 pm »
Moffrestorer and exfirepro, thank you both.

I'm not averse to Apple products, my desktops are Macs, but I rather balk at the price of an iPad mini 4 just for PAW. Not saying if I had one that's all I would use it for but so far I have not felt the need to own a tablet. I do see the advantage of the 4x3 format over the what, 9x6? Interesting that PAW works on the iPod Touch, though.

As to nav packages, I think I'm aware of most of the mainstream ones. I'm not really averse to them, but nor am I particularly drawn to any one of them. I'm an old fart and I like 'steam'.

For traffic alerts I have to say I rather like the simplicity of the Flarm Butterfly display, which is why I wondered if the Radar view on it's own would work for me, at least as a starting point.

Lots to think about here and more research to be done.

Thanks again.

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General Discussion / Re: PAW and no nav software?
« on: May 14, 2017, 10:00:11 am »
No smart phone, I'm afraid. The closest thing I have is an iPod Touch but I was not really considering that as an option. I have lately been thinking about an Android tablet, maybe 7" size, but that's another field where I'm hopelessly out of my depth.

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General Discussion / PAW and no nav software?
« on: May 14, 2017, 09:47:59 am »
OK, possibly a real stupid question but indicative of my near absolute ignorance.

Can PAW be used without running a navigation package like SkyDemon?
Presumably with no display it would work to alert other flyers but, of course, I'd want to have some means of benefiting by seeing the traffic too. Perhaps the Radar view would work on its own. I know there are voice alerts but I'd probably find then irritating.

You might wonder why I even ask the question, but at the moment I don't own and have never owned a tablet, of any flavour, and I have no navigation software other than SkyDemon Lite on my computer. So I'm pretty much ignorant of this whole area but feel I should maybe try to catch up a little.

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