When willl the PAW be ready?

[Admin]

Hi all

Just to clarify the adsb messages, the term 'level' is used when the traffic is within +/- 30 degrees from dead ahead, you will also get messages 'above' or 'below', when outside this range

Regarding the units, this will be made configurable in a later release, this was an initial stab. The only reason for choosing kms was the internal representation

Please remember to use the enhancement request topic as well, I do go back and sweep the postings for future ideas
Keep 'em coming ...

Thx
Lee

[flying_john]

As I have a PAW which appears to be working I have not been reading this thread but in an effort to keep up I have just reviewed it and am very pleased to hear about an audio output to alert you to a threat.

Do I have to download the software again onto my SD card and go through the licence request process again ?

Would be pleased get some advice.

John

[Ian Melville]

You will need to have the latest software, but also a Raspberry Pi2B. It also looks as if you will need to buy a new license, but the team have not responded to that question yet.

[flying_john]

Oh that's a shame it is only on a different bit of hardware. I wonder why, perhaps speech is too mem or processor hungry, but "shirley" we could have a simple chime output on the audio built into the standard Pi to at least make us be more alert to a potential threat.

[Moffrestorer]

Hi Lee,

I'm not sure that I understand your definition of "Level" being within +-30deg of straight ahead. Are you talking in azimuth i.e. From 11 o clock to 1 o clock, or +- 30 deg in elevation, or a combination (like a cone)? What about ads-b returns from other directions at or very close to your own altitude?

Thx,

Chris

[Admin]

Hi Lee,
I'm not sure that I understand your definition of "Level" being within +-30deg of straight ahead. Are you talking in azimuth i.e. From 11 o clock to 1 o clock, or +- 30 deg in elevation, or a combination (like a cone)? What about ads-b returns from other directions at or very close to your own altitude?
Thx,
Chris

Hi Chris,
If only you knew the internal debates we have had on this 
so the message format is the following in programming terms we call this BNF !

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traffic x'oclock, <above|level|below>, y kms
where x = 1 - 12
where y = 0 - 10
where level means looking up or down within 30 degrees up, or 30 degrees down
where above means greater than 30 degrees up
where below means greater than 30 degrees down

I am open to alternatives, I discussed with others giving the angles in 10 degree separation,
but we decided that was to complicated.

The goal is to get you to look at the right area of the sky with simple communication, rather
than overload your brain trying to think what 10 degrees looks like!

comments welcome

Thx
Lee

[SteveN]

I  have a concern about just saying "level". Might be mistaken for 'the intruder is flying level'.  "same level" could be the PAW way perhaps?   "same altitude" is what the Avidyne use.   That is for an intruder at +-200ft.

Their POH makes for good bedtime reading regarding concepts behind traffic alerting generally.

 

[Moffrestorer]

Hi Lee,

Thanks for clarification, all is clear to me now. My confusion stemmed from your use of the phrase "dead ahead" as though you were only warning of traffic within +- 30 deg azimuth of the direction my aircraft is travelling. I now see that you are basing the azimuth angle for detection on the clock dial after all, which I imagine will be preferable to a majority of users. The term "Level" is also fine, indicating both aircraft are at similar height. "Same Level" as SteveN proposes, might be a tad more concise.

Thx again,

Chris

[tnowak]

Just a thought - can we have a new folder added to the website dedicated solely to the new PAW Classic?
Although I read all the posts on the PAW website, for a newbie, it can be quiet confusing as to what exactly one will get when purchasing a ready made and ready to go PAW Classic.
For example:
1. Will it work straight out of the box and integrate with SD running on my smartphone?
2. What are the licensing arrangements and annual costs?

etc. etc.

Tony nowak

[Admin]

Hi Tony,

There is a datasheet being prepared with all the necessary data, so hopefully that will address your query

Thx
Lee

[Ian Melville]

When a product is superseded it often gets the moniker 'Classic'. Are we in this incidence using for the new Pi2B product, which is a tad confusing.

[tnowak]

I also thought that the title "classic" was slightly confusing as usually that would refer to the original version/model.
Tony Nowak

[exfirepro]

Bear in mind that the 'Classic' is the first 'production' model for those who haven't ventured into PAW before. 🙂

Peter

[Deker]

I'm going to upgrade my Pi B+, but finding the Pi2 difficult to source. Is the Pi3 an option?
The Pi3 has the possible (future) use of built in WIFI and Bluetooth for connection to external GPS mouse without the need for 3rd party dongles hanging out the back?

From the Pi site The Raspberry Pi 3 has an identical form factor to the previous Pi 2 (and Pi 1 Model B+) and has complete compatibility with Raspberry Pi 1 and 2.
AtB
Deker

[Admin]

Hi Deker

Please do not try the Pi3, my understanding is that it does not work.
I think the bootloader may have changed.

Aviation Hardware and Technology Ltd have sufficient stock of RPi2 for the full system plus Bridge which will be on sale shortly

Thx
Lee