Author Topic: Rx Tx antenna seperation  (Read 7498 times)

Nigel waller

Rx Tx antenna seperation
« on: October 29, 2015, 08:11:43 am »
How far apart do the antenna's need to be could they be next to each other and not cause
interference to each other?

Nigel
 

The Westmorland Flyer

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2015, 09:00:38 am »
For a single PAW there is only one transmitter - the P3i  signal via the ARF antenna. There are two receivers though - the P3i signal, again using the ARF antenna and the ADS-B receiver using the smaller antenna connected to the DVB-dongle.

I am nervous of having the antennas too close together although tests seem to have shown that the ADS-B receiver is unaffected. I suspect the reality is that the P3i transmissions are so short that any blocking that does occur has no noticeable effect on ADS-B reception. It is unlikely that the P3i signal is strong enough to damage the DVB dongle, especially if the ADS-B antenna has been cut down to be resonant on 1090MHz.
John
G-JONL, Sportcruiser, Carlisle

Ian Melville

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2015, 01:24:06 pm »
John, don't forget there is also a WiFi dongle.

The Westmorland Flyer

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2015, 11:17:37 am »
Yeah, I thought of that after I'd posted. So yes, two transmitters and  four receivers... there really is quite a lot of wirelessy stuff going on isn't there! I think, though, that we can practically ignore any EMC issues with the WiFi system as it is way up there at 2.4GHz. Similarly I'd not expect the P3i transmission to interfere with GPS reception.

869.4MHz Tx and Rx: P3i
1090MHz  Rx only: ADS-B
1575MHz  Rx only: GPS
2400MHz  Tx and Rx: WiFi AP

All rather fast wiggles for me: I tend to do most of my wirelessry between 1.8MHz and 30MHz!
« Last Edit: October 30, 2015, 12:12:21 pm by The Westmorland Flyer »
John
G-JONL, Sportcruiser, Carlisle

rodent0_2

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2015, 12:43:41 pm »
 "All rather fast wiggles for me: I tend to do most of my wirelessry between 1.8MHz and 30MHz"

must be a fellow radio ham ?
Nick.
Nick

Aircreation Tanarg G-CHFT

The Westmorland Flyer

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2015, 01:31:03 pm »
G3WGV
There's quite a few of us on this forum!
John
G-JONL, Sportcruiser, Carlisle

rodent0_2

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2015, 01:45:56 pm »
G1JJT

The Rodent aka Nick..
Nick

Aircreation Tanarg G-CHFT

Paul_Sengupta

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2015, 04:52:47 pm »
G(W)1YJY...

sandy

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2015, 10:06:16 pm »
Another...GM4IBI

Bill Maxwell

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2015, 05:19:11 am »
Another here, for what it's worth VK7MX

Ian Melville

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2015, 07:24:15 am »
Not Ham, but got a City & Guilds Radio C, which I am told is the equivalent to the Uk Amateur Radio exam.

Richard W

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2015, 01:19:44 pm »
You are all very bad people  :)  The last thing I need is another hobby, and you have induced me to look at the RCF Foundation course.  It has revived memories of the CCF network in the 'sixties, using a WS12 and an R107.

The Westmorland Flyer

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2015, 01:28:58 pm »
Be very afraid ;D. Beyond Foundation lie the Intermediate and Full licenses. And Morse Code. And another very engaging hobby, albeit nowhere near as expensive as flying!
John
G-JONL, Sportcruiser, Carlisle

tfede

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2015, 01:41:46 pm »
Another one here, IK4YGE  :)

the_top_pilot

Re: Rx Tx antenna seperation
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2015, 02:02:46 pm »
In my latest config with great ADS-B reception and very good P3i coverage my antenna are as close to touching as I can get them separated only by the radius of the small mag base (on the subject of mag base I have broken the magnet out and discarded and 'Hook and Loop' fastened the antenna to the box).