Author Topic: Garmin 496 and traffic data  (Read 22588 times)

przemek

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #15 on: February 19, 2017, 09:50:07 am »
This is GDL protocol. Can be similar or completly different.
I'll try to get somewhere tis-a transmitter.


Admin

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #16 on: February 19, 2017, 10:55:38 am »
This is GDL protocol. Can be similar or completly different.
I'll try to get somewhere tis-a transmitter.

Good luck with this, let us know how you get on.
If you have some success, we could always incorporate a solution, the last contact I had from Garmin after many email exchanges was this :-

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Hi Lee,

I understand you're not a Garmin Dealer. 

I'm not familiar with  Flarm, Zaon, or Garrech.  There are non Garmin dealer who, without our support, have "reverse engineered" our data most with limited success.   

Best Regards,
Ken

MikeD

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2017, 12:36:17 pm »
Hi,

FWIW I had the Zaon XRX coupled to the Garmin 496 and used it in that configuration for quite a while.  My personal feelings on the setup was that it wasn't a good combination because of the small screen, any contacts would eventually show up in the relevant quadrant on the 496 screen but more importantly you had to take some time to find the little red dot representing the target!  The time spent should have been looking out of the window.

I used it like that for one season and eventually went back to the Zaon XRX default display (ie. uncoupled it from the Garmin).  I have now replaced both pieces of kit with the PAW and a Nexus 7,  a far better choice especially when using Skydemon.  Now I can have my head outside the office instead of inside, it's far more enjoyable and relaxing.

Mike (G-BJXK)

Keithvinning

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2017, 08:56:31 pm »
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I have now replaced both pieces of kit with the PAW and a Nexus 7,  a far better choice especially when using Skydemon.  Now I can have my head outside the office instead of inside, it's far more enjoyable and relaxing.

Mike (G-BJXK)

Hi Mike thanks for the feedback. We like feedback the good and the bad. It helps us know what you need and what you want.

przemek

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2017, 07:43:04 pm »
Ok. So I did some work and I have dump of position reports sent in Garmin TIS by RS-232.
I attached this file and some screenshots.
Protocol is like described here:
http://www.garmin.com/support/pdf/iop_spec.pdf

So every sentence starts with 10 then 8C (packed id) then how long are data for eg. 48
then we have data...

on the end is checksum (AA) and 10 03

Maybe someone can help and analyze data section for lat/lon/altitude etc....

I know that garmin is using conversion's
degrees = semicircles * ( 180 / 2^31 )
semicircles = degrees * ( 2^31 / 180 )
 

Update!
After 2 days of research I found how to make it.
I have to decode some minor stuff but I'm able to display traffic by myself with altitude, direction, icon type etc..
« Last Edit: March 26, 2017, 07:25:44 pm by przemek »

Welsh Pilot

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2017, 09:53:06 pm »
Great work -well done!! I would like to connect to a Garmin 695. Im watching your investigations with interest!

ploucandco

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #21 on: March 28, 2017, 10:44:32 am »
Here is the description of the TIP protocol used by the TRX products:
http://www.air-avionics.com/air/index.php/kundenservice-und-support/systemintegratoren/76-trx-dataport-spezifikation/file

The $PGAV5 sentence is the relevant one.

przemek

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #22 on: March 28, 2017, 10:54:09 am »
My idea is to build simple flarm (or something else) to TIS converter or get in contact with pilot aware team and implement it directly in PAW. This option would be the best.

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2017, 08:32:59 am »
Hi Przemek
Just been looking at your work with the 695 Traffic question and wondering if you've progressed?  I'm probably not the only one who'd like to take advantage of the 'blank' traffic screen on the 695.
I'll be watching with interest, good luck!
Les

przemek

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2017, 08:57:26 am »
Hi. A agreed with PAW developer and I sent protocol documentation them. I think they need a bit of time to look for it, identify missing items and make testing.

I hope it's on good way.

Giver

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2017, 09:00:10 am »
Likewise i am interested in the possibility of it being usable on my Garmin 795 assuming it uses the same protocol! 



ivor

przemek

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #26 on: April 27, 2017, 12:04:09 pm »
All devices with traffic by TIS protocol so this one also.
I have tested on 696

iang

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #27 on: May 01, 2017, 12:12:50 am »
Having just bought a Savannah with a `garmin 496 may I join you in a wish to be able to connected it to the pilot aware unit

gFlyer

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #28 on: June 19, 2017, 05:28:47 pm »
Hi. Has anyone tried to display traffic data from PilotAware on a Garmin area 660 gps?


paolista

Re: Garmin 496 and traffic data
« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2017, 06:25:51 am »
Hi, any news about this topic? It would be really great seeing traffic on gps display. Tnx! Fabio