IGrid WiFi

[Young_C]

Thanks for the info about iGRID functionality. It's good to know that it is additive and none of the base functionality is lost if iGRID is inactive.

Another question please: I received my PAW wifi dongle and I'm planning to install it on my Rosetta tomorrow. Currently I have a 0.6m USB extension lead which connects to one of the Rosetta USB ports, which I use to plug in a memory stick for downloading logs / uploading software, since it is a permanent install and the unit is buried behind the panel and difficult to get to.

Would the wifi dongle work if plugged into this extension lead rather than directly into the socket on the Rosetta unit?

[Keithvinning]

Yes it will work on the short USB cable
This is how I test the WiFi devices individually to make them easy to fit

Cheers Keith

[Young_C]

Hi All,
I've recently installed the iGRID wifi dongle in my Rosetta unit. I'm curious about the PilotAware claim for iGRID:
 
"Real-time, server enhanced traffic for your chosen EFB. Shows more traffic than ever"

Is there any quantification of how much more traffic is typically shown via iGRID vs the previous methods PilotAware uses?

I'm particularly interested in whether more FLARM traffic is shown since I fly from Bidford which is principally a gliding airfield.

Best regards,
Chris.

[Admin]

no Scientific method really
what you can try is turning the hotspot off on your phone whilst watching the traffic, and see it drop
I just looked at my setup - I am receiving 88 traffic reports, there is a large gaggle over Husbands Bosworth, which I definitely cannot see Air-2-Air.
If you look on the traffic page, there will be a G in the last position of the Mode column, this indicates supplied via the GRID, if you are detecting directly - this will not be present

BTW, there is a slight bug-ette in the system at the moment
You are only sent traffic reports from iGRID IF you are emitting your own position
So for instance if you have set the "Aircraft Transmit Speed" to greater than zero - you will not receive iGRID reports until you are moving, a simple workaround for now is to set the "Aircraft Transmit Speed" to ZERO

This is fixed in an internal build, and will be released shortly

[Merlin29]

Hi - I flew Saturday with IGrid for the first time. As I'm using an iPad Mini 2 I can't run a split screen of Sky Demon and Pilotaware Radar at the same time, so I've no idea if the connection remained between the Rosetta and my iPhone throughout the flight. Is there a log file to check this? Also, I noticed that the Rosetta does not automatically connect to my iPhone. I have to go to Settings, Personal Hotspot on my phone - then it connects. I forgot to do this on the second flight of the day. Is there a way to force the connection without remembering to open up the iPhone settings page? Thank you!

[steveu]

Hi - I flew Saturday with IGrid for the first time. As I'm using an iPad Mini 2 I can't run a split screen of Sky Demon and Pilotaware Radar at the same time, so I've no idea if the connection remained between the Rosetta and my iPhone throughout the flight. Is there a log file to check this?

Yes, go to Aircrew:

https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/groundstations/

Check your flight by leaving the stations set to all and the trransmission to PilotAware. Put in your ICAO code, you should have loaded this into PilotAware but if you can't remember it's on G-INFO with your reg.

Set the bottom three boxes for the time of your flight. It needs to be recent.

Press the "Search" button. If you got the times right and your PilotAware was transmitting to ground stations, you will see a profile of your flight.

If there is a flight there, now change the drop down box from PilotAware to Cellular.

Press the "Search" button again. The map may disappear but you will see a vertical profile of reception during your flight.

Example of step 1:

https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/groundstations/?ICAO=404A4B&RxType=PAW&adbVariant=*&Station=*&start=1657979400&end=1657990200

Example of step 2:

https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/groundstations/?ICAO=404A4B&RxType=Cellular&adbVariant=*&Station=*&start=1657979400&end=1657990200

[Admin]

the Rosetta does not automatically connect to my iPhone. I have to go to Settings, Personal Hotspot on my phone - then it connects. I forgot to do this on the second flight of the day. Is there a way to force the connection without remembering to open up the iPhone settings page? Thank you!

This is a feature of ios/iphone, out of the control of PilotAware

If you try the same connection to your home router, you will see it auto connects every time

Thx
Lee

[Merlin29]

This is great. Thank you. If I have interpreted the flight correctly then the entire flight was being picked up by ground stations:
https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/groundstations/?ICAO=4058EA&RxType=PAW&adbVariant=*&Station=*&start=1657958400&end=1657969200

and for the cellular it was a little more patchy
https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/groundstations/?ICAO=4058EA&RxType=Cellular&adbVariant=*&Station=*&start=1657958400&end=1657969200

[steveu]

This is great. Thank you. If I have interpreted the flight correctly then the entire flight was being picked up by ground stations:
https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/groundstations/?ICAO=4058EA&RxType=PAW&adbVariant=*&Station=*&start=1657958400&end=1657969200

and for the cellular it was a little more patchy
https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/groundstations/?ICAO=4058EA&RxType=Cellular&adbVariant=*&Station=*&start=1657958400&end=1657969200

What sort of aircraft, wood, rag and tube, Stits or all metal?

Where is the phone mounted?

[Merlin29]

It’s a flexWing microlight. Rosetta is in the nose of the pod with antenna pointing down. Phone was in the top pocket of my flying suit.

[steveu]

It’s a flexWing microlight. Rosetta is in the nose of the pod with antenna pointing down. Phone was in the top pocket of my flying suit.

Have you got a pod bag, or a secure pocket in the skirt? Next to your body, which is a mass with 60% water, propagation over the longer distances we want might be an issue.

If it were a Quantum I'd zip it in one of the two side pockets in the skirt, then try it again.

[Merlin29]

I’ll give it a go in one of the skirt pockets! Although I do like to have the phone close to me invade of accident! Many thanks.