Author Topic: Flarm Into PAW  (Read 1204 times)

PaulSS

Flarm Into PAW
« on: January 16, 2022, 02:27:34 pm »
A friend has an AT-1 and a Rosetta. Can we feed the Flarm IN, received by the AT-1, into the Rosetta so that it is combined with the ADSB, PAW etc received by the Rosetta and then chucked out to SkyDemon via WI-FI?

For 10 bonus points, can we also output via a USB to serial cable to a Dynon Skyvuew and show the same, COMBINED, received traffic? At the moment the AT-1 is hard-wired to the SkyView and shows Flarm In and ADSB In. We could, I think, wire in the Rosetta as well (on a separate serial port) but I think it would be neater if all received traffic was routed through the Rosetta and then displayed via WI-FI on SkyDemon and via the serial cable to the SkyView.

Sank you  :)

exfirepro

Re: Flarm Into PAW
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2022, 10:44:32 pm »
Hi Paul,

I’ve never tried with an AT-1, but I did write a paper some time back (2016 IIRC) explaining how to integrate the data output from a FLARM device into a PAW Classic (using FlarmMouse as the example. I have also integrated data from PowerFlarm Core, FLARM RedBox and the newer LXNav PowerMouse, so can see no reason why it wouldn’t work with the AT-1 as all FLARM units output their data in a standard format. The principle and detail are laid out in the paper in the Documentation Section of the PAW website here...

https://global-uploads.webflow.com/5d56c24810fbfdbe08b488cd/5f82e28f0e8557469b81059c_FLARM-IN%20via%20LX%20Nav%20FlarmMouse.pdf


For the 10 extra bonus points - as we already output combined traffic data from PAW to Dynon via USB to RS232, I would think that adding in the Flarm Data via PAW (Classic or Rosetta) would automatically result in this additional data being included in the Dynon output.

Best Regards

Peter

PaulSS

Re: Flarm Into PAW
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2022, 03:52:18 pm »
Thanks Peter. I knew you'd written before about Flarm but I just couldn't find it in the search. I shall away and study your worms of wizdom  ;D

Keithvinning

Re: Flarm Into PAW
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2022, 10:15:35 pm »
As an aside, this is kinda what we are doing with a new product we are currently testing called Rossetta FX., FX is a very small 50 grammes device that will be attached in series with a Flarm device and its display. It will basically inject all the other aircraft that a flarm device doesn't see directly. It can be powered from the Flarm or USB 5V or 6-15V DC power. Its much lower power consumption s it will run off an Anker battery for 7 days.

Working in conjunction with the ATOM GRID and Sky GRID a flarm equipped glider will then have Flarm in and out PilotAware in and out ADSB in (from a chip, not a dongle) and also get the advantages of Mode-S 3D and everything else we will broadcast from the ATOM grounds stations and Sky-GRID with the next software release. Spoiler alert, our resident genius 'Professor' Moore nearly has the Weather RADAR screen working albeit with a little less hair. these days

The combined view of all traffic will be shown on a smart device EFB etc just like Rosetta.

This is a continuation of our mission to integrate the different types of EC together and will help gliders who are thermalling to see the PA28 that has Mode-S only is about to fly through the gaggle that are thermalling.

Before anyone states the obvious, no the PA28 will not see the Gliders unless he/she has an inexpensive PilotAware Rosetta installed but if he/she does then he/she will. Either directly or via the ATOM GRID or via Sky GRID.

You are really getting very clever Mr Moore is there anymore. SIC