Author Topic: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware  (Read 4704 times)

Positiv

Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« on: September 27, 2018, 07:28:24 am »
Hello,
I have Pilotaware and Stratux with Flarm.
At Stratux I can output Flarm USB-Serial.
For Pilotaware I can import Flarm Serial-USB.
But it will not transfer.

exfirepro

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2018, 08:30:58 am »
Hi Positiv,

Lee would have to advise on data compatibility, however on the ‘physical’ connection level - How are you transferring the data - by which I mean what type of cable? Presumably 2x USB to RS232 Serial cables connected back to back - I don’t think you can just connect USB to USB, though Paul S or Ian M may be able to clarify. The cables need to be true Serial Level (not TTL) and you must make sure that ‘Data Out’ from the Stratux/FLARM is connected to the ‘Data In’ at the PilotAware side.

You also need to make sure you configure the correct USB port in the PAW to FLARM-In. Users often get confused about the port numbering. Not sure about settings in the Stratux.

Regards

Peter

Ian Melville

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2018, 09:07:08 am »
Correct you cannot do straight USB- USB, but the OP from Positiv implies that he is not doing that.

Comments regarding USB-Serial adaptors and settings are relevant.

We know FLARM into PAW works, but I have no idea what format Stratux is pumping out. It would make sense that it complies with the FLARM standards so that 3rd party displays would function correctly. So in theory it most likely will work.

More details required on how wired and settings used. Error messages if any?


Admin

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2018, 09:48:45 am »
Hello,
I have Pilotaware and Stratux with Flarm.
At Stratux I can output Flarm USB-Serial.
For Pilotaware I can import Flarm Serial-USB.
But it will not transfer.

Can you post a snippet of the messages that are being sent
Or send in an email
Thx
Lee

Positiv

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2018, 10:29:04 am »
https://www.bilder-upload.eu/bild-401c74-1538040525.jpg.html

Stratux to Sky-Map   per WLan OK
Stratux  to "USB-Serial to Serial USB " PC Serial Monitor OK

Pilotaware USB Port 1 is Flarm in

( By Stratox Config = only Flarm is ON )

Stratux out is GDL90

From Stratux ( Copy from PuTTy )
Quote
i▒~~e▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒Stratuxv1.4r5-ee303aa1e\▒~~▒▒A▒▒~~▒▒~~SX▒▒▒▒|i▒~~e▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒Stratuxv1.4r5-ee303aa1e\▒~~▒▒A▒▒~~▒▒~~SX▒▒▒▒| o▒~~e▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒Stratuxv1.4r5-ee303aa1e\▒~~▒▒Ad~~▒▒~~SX▒▒▒▒|d▒~~e▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒Stratuxv1.4r5-ee303aa1e\▒~~▒▒A+
« Last Edit: September 27, 2018, 12:16:39 pm by Positiv »

exfirepro

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2018, 10:55:38 am »
Hi Positiv,

Do you have a reference / datasheets for the USB modules you are using for the interconnection?

(Sorry my German is not quite up to ‘technical’ level, but a data sheet might help identify an issue.)

p.s. not easy to see from the photos, but I assume the board is double sided with the connecting pins repeated exactly the same on both sides of the board? Also not easy to see what the on-board switches are doing.

Assuming you are using the same USB port as in the bilder-upload photo, that is Port 1 on PilotAware Config.

Regards

Peter
« Last Edit: September 27, 2018, 11:07:52 am by exfirepro »

Admin

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2018, 11:34:29 am »
Hi Positiv,

What is the message format output from your stratux ?
is this
- FLARM Data messages, or
- GDL90 messages ?

My suspicion is you are generating GDL90 not FLARM

PilotAware is expecting FLARM data messages on its input port

Thx
Lee

Positiv

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2018, 11:53:37 am »
Would not it be good too ....
Simply data coming.
to send without control

Data-In
like Flam-In


exfirepro

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2018, 12:12:58 pm »
Hi Lee,

I’ve just seen Positiv’s updated earlier post - Stratux Data Out is GDL90. That will be the issue!

Regards

Peter

Positiv

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2018, 02:51:27 pm »
Hello Lee,
advantageous
Another shot. Forward data by USB in and than to W-Lan

No matter what.

Paul_Sengupta

Re: Stratux-Flarm to Pilotaware
« Reply #10 on: October 10, 2018, 11:30:00 pm »
The protocols are not compatible. GDL90 will not talk to Flarm.

As for RS232 or TTL, it shouldn't matter as long as the two adaptors are the same.

I had the same thought some weeks ago and had a short discussion about PAW being able to input GDL90, but I thought I'd have a search around first to see if anyone had written the software for Stratux to be able to output the Flarm protocol.