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OGN-R PilotAware / FLARM to change protocol
« Last Post by Admin on March 12, 2024, 05:51:04 pm »
The FLARM protocol for all devices will change shortly.
Not to worry, we have already pushed out a change to the entire network to handle the new format

Thx
Lee
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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: OGN STATION TO VRS
« Last Post by Admin on March 12, 2024, 05:49:27 pm »
What is the basestation called ?

Thx
Lee
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Technical Support / FX traffic filters not working as advertised?
« Last Post by russp on March 12, 2024, 03:24:57 pm »
The instructions for advance settings in the FX state “ Horizontal and Vertical Filters apply only to the RS232 output port destined for Glass cockpits without the ability to filter aircraft heights. FX will do it for them based on your input.”

However, when activated, they stop the output via Wi-Fi to SkyDemon as well. This is very obvious on test and repeatable.

This would not seem to be desirable behaviour filtering the WiFi output to SD but I would like the ability to a filter on the RS232 output ports to the glass cockpit.
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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: OGN STATION TO VRS
« Last Post by Ralo on March 12, 2024, 12:44:43 pm »
I Tried, to do, but i still sais connecting, and no more..

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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: OGN STATION TO VRS
« Last Post by Cottie on March 11, 2024, 12:06:29 pm »
Hi if you add a new receiver with the settings:

Format: Basestation

Address: IP address of the PAW

Port: 30003

Location: (add the location, if you have one configured under Receiver Locations).

That should do it.


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OGN-R PilotAware / OGN STATION TO VRS
« Last Post by Ralo on March 11, 2024, 11:07:02 am »
Hi All!

Can someone help me, to add my OGN receiver to VRS? I'm new in this thing.
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Technical Support / Re: adsb (out) not showing on Vector
« Last Post by exfirepro on March 08, 2024, 10:40:36 am »
Hi John,

Coming a bit late to this, but checking on Vector, your PAW and Flarm signals (as reported by the PAW ATOM-GRID Ground Station Network) are both perfectly acceptable, with coverage reports generated from 15th and 24th February and 3rd March.

Your ADSB, however,  only indicates a report from a single date - 3rd March (reports are compiled from data from the past 30 days) and the signals are extremely weak - to the point of being only just visible by zooming in on my laptop screen. Taken with the positive PAW and Flarm reports for the same period, this would certainly lead me to deduce that there is a significant problem with ADSB-Out from your aircraft.

Looking then at the (secure) PilotAware Database, there are reports from multiple ground stations for both PAW and Flarm from your aircraft, but when checking for ADSB reports, there are reports from several of the same sites as reported your PAW and Flarm for 15th February and 3rd March, but (with the exception of Woodcote)  only a minimum of 'data packets' received by any station and always at fairly short range. There are no ADSB reports whatsoever from your aircraft from 24th February.

Looking back further, reports indicate similar ADSB performance going back through 2023 - in fact I can only find what I would describe as 'acceptable' ADSB results from your aircraft from back in 2021.

In short, the results clearly indicate serious performance issues which require investigation.

As a start point, can you please advise as to what make/model of transponder you are using and what you are using to provide the GPS position data to it. A description of your antenna setup (i.e. antenna type and location (with photos if available) would also be helpful.

FYI, the other aircraft (G-RVTX) is showing typical SkyEcho results, with multiple data packets received on 12th and 15th February by our Sister Network (360Radar), but all at less than 10Km from the receiving site(s) and no reports whatever reported by any PAW ATOM sites since last October (which might just reflect that he was never close enough to any ATOM (Ground) sites for his SkyEcho transmissions to be received from the ground).

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

If you can give me the requested info, I will try to work out what might be going on.

Peter
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Technical Support / Re: Current Fault Indications.....what do they mean please?
« Last Post by exfirepro on March 07, 2024, 07:47:44 pm »
Clive,

I haven’t been on the Forum for quite a while. I got out of the habit as there was (as you have reported) nothing new on here for months, and I am only now back on and playing catch-up!

Have you managed to resolve this yet?

Just a few comments to hopefully help clarify a few points…

Thanks for all the feedback.

The traffic MODE column above shows traffic at up to 800km away so I figure that's coming through either the ATOM or the dongle.

The MODE column indicates the type of signal being received by your PilotAware from each aircraft - C = Mode C, S = Mode S, A = ADSB (commercial or from a transponder) reports as ‘CSA’ because the transponder is still transmitting Mode-C (altitude) + Mode-S (hexID and other data) in addition to the ADSB signal, ‘lower case’ a = df18 ADSB (e.g. from a SkyEcho), P = PilotAware. All of the aforementioned indicate direct reception via you antennas unless accompanied by one of the following) - O = ‘Other Mode (normally FLARM / FANET), ’ M = MLAT (triangulated Mode-S/3D), U = Uplink from an ATOM and G = uplink via iGRID.

I’m a bit confused by your comment about ‘traffic at up to 800km away’, - that’s a heck of a long way for direct reception and uplinks are normally restricted to around 60Km from your location (though this can vary depending on where you are).

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I messed with the 1090 extension cable and things were better so I bought a good quality RG58 cable that doesn't seem to have made any odds, the old one was a flimsy one. My hangar mate re-appeared again the other day when flying together so all I have atm is ok.

This certainly seems to indicate an issue with the cable or connectors. RG58 is by the way getting near its ‘acceptable loss limits’ at 1090MHz, so is only advised for relatively short runs. I’m pretty sure the cables supplied by PilotAware are LM240 or similar, though I’d need to check.

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Dongle reception; metal aeroplane under a metal panel, a dongle in my son's fibreglass plane even was much better with the pad antenna. The Dongle is the types that look like a zip drive.

A 4G dongle or other 4G receiver, such as a phone, needs to be able to ‘see’ the antennas on cellular towers on the ground, so not great if sealed inside a metal (or carbon fibre) box. Experience, however, indicates that a normal phone works fairly well in most aircraft if it has a reasonable view outside the ‘metal box’. In a fabric or fibreglass aircraft it will usually work fine even in your pocket.

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How do I power the dongle externally but still have it giving data to the PAW unit via the USB?

This has already been covered. You can power the dongle from a USB power pack (battery) or a separate USB source powered from your aircraft power supply. It can’t, however, supply the received data to your PAW via USB - You have to set up a WiFi hotspot on the dongle - (though you seem to be saying yours doesn’t provide that option which surprises me) - or from your phone or tablet, then connect your PAW to that hotspot by setting up an iGRID link on the PAW Network Screen.

NOTE: the iGRID Network field won’t appear on the PAW Network Screen until you have an iGRID Access Dongle plugged into one of the PAW USB ports. You mention elsewhere using the redundant WiFi dongle from your original ‘Classic’ setup. While this may work, I would advise using a new iGRID Access Dongle from the PAW Store as your old dongle could well have become faulty through extended use.

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406436 is my number. I'd still like the PAW signals to look a little better so aircraft don't disappear and re-appear when close. Going to try the old antenna on the panel to see if it has a better view out the front than the external BNC connected metal one under the belly, under the rudder pedals, below the 0-320 which is a big lump of obscuration of course.

Thanks all, Regards, Clive

I tried to look your aircraft reports up on the PilotAware database, but for some reason the server isn’t coming up at the moment. I will try again later. I did manage to get you up on Vector via the link from pilotaware.com. Your ADSB transmissions are looking good, but your P3i coverage and range are both very poor, which normally indicates an antenna issue. First thing to do is thoroughly check the P3i antenna and connections. If you don’t have an antenna tester, you can do a simple test by disconnecting the antenna cable from the PilotAware and checking electrical continuity with a multi-meter on a resistance (Ohms) setting (you can use a length of insulated wire to extend the probe to reach under the aircraft). Centre pin at PAW end of coax to antenna radiating element under the aircraft (assuming this is exposed) should be zero or at least very low resistance - the same with outer of plug at PAW and the ground plane or metal body of the aircraft. Centre pin to outer (at both ends of the cable, and between the wire radiating element and aircraft ground, on the other hand, should be infinitely high resistance. If any of these readings are not what they should be, there is a break or bad in the cable/plugs (high or infinite resistance in the first two)  or in the latter case - low or zero resistance indicates a short circuit somewhere along the line (such as a rogue strand of the coax braid touching the centre conductor inside a plug). If no improvement is noted, by all means try your end feed antenna directly on the PAW, but be aware that externally mounted antennas under the aircraft should give far better results - especially in terms of communication and uplink from ground-based ATOM Stations as long as they aren’t hidden close to (for example) undercarriage legs or similar.

Hope this helps

Best Regards

Peter
p.s. when Lee says ‘The status page will give a warning’, he means the ‘STATUS’ row on the PAW Home Screen - Thro=OK will change to Thro= throttled (usually accompanied by VOLT=Error in the first box on that row).
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General Discussion / Re: Rosetta FX
« Last Post by marioair on March 07, 2024, 03:50:56 pm »
I’m in the SE of England.

I’ve opted for a regular Rosetta as  can’t see how the price point for the FX makes sense. I see it as twice the price for “just” smaller packaging and lower power consumption but a loss of bearing less and Audio out.

The data driven approach PAW have always had has been great - vector being an example.

Why can’t some stats be analysed to show by region or country the average differences ? Not only would it move everyone to FX But also help on discussions with regulators.
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Technical Support / Re: license renewal
« Last Post by exfirepro on March 07, 2024, 03:50:27 pm »
Tommy,

Not sure what has happened here. I have PM’d you.

Best Regards

Peter
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