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I'm sure this has arisen before, but I have searched the forum and drawn a blank for mobile phones.

Went using Vector on an Android phone turned landscape, the date button sits over the Go button, and only by zooming to mad magnification can the Go button be pressed.

I'll send a screen dump later but is this bug on the radar, please?

Technical Support / Rosetta and USB hub?
« on: April 12, 2023, 10:06:04 am »
For those running out of USB ports, where only data is being used, does the Rosetta software support a USB hub, or would this confuse the configuration?

Could it, in future?

OGN-R PilotAware / OGNPAW took too long to respond FIXED
« on: April 12, 2023, 10:03:30 am »
I'm getting this message occasionally when using a kiosk Pi to browse the ATOM and look at in turn, Radar, METAR and XCWeather pages.

The kiosk Pi gets turned on then left on whilst we are at the strip.

The XCWeather page always shows, so the LAN and Internet connections are working.

Sometimes the Radar and/or METAR pages load as normal, and sometimes I get this.

The pages are rotated on a 45 second basis.

Is there an issue here that can be fixed?

From this topic:,2283.0.html

Noticed the ......

'airfields are now installing these weather stations to accompany their ATOM station'

I have 3 x ATOm stations and am interested as to the nature of this integration and how I can effect it.

Can someone educate me please? Thanks, Richard

I see that option 2 when you have logged into the ATOM ground station (there's a 12 option menu, type the number and hit return) is the installation of a weather station.

I selected it but dropped out out of as the stages were not totally obvious.

Do we have a link to any install instructions?

OGN-R PilotAware / Monitoring ground station mains remotely
« on: July 14, 2022, 08:45:54 am »
I'm not a fan of having to go out to a site to find that the mains is off and that is why cameras or ground stations are not working.

Remotely monitoring mains saves time and money.

I use these where I need to know about mains status:

Or cheaper direct from AliExpress... but under £50.


Do not buy them without the internal battery. The internal battery is needed for the loss of mains SMS to be sent

Do not use them without conducting a mobile phone signal survey. They are 2G devices. No point putting  a 3 SIM in them. Networks like O2 with lots of legacy 2G are best, IMO.

General Discussion / Jamming of PAW frequencies?
« on: June 02, 2022, 09:36:14 am »
Got this via Skywise. Not sure what the point of GPS/moving map or EC is if the CAA allows so many jamming exercises...

Notification of Jamming Trial - RAF Spadeadam, 6 – 9 June 2022

Jamming activity impacting licence exempt bands will take place between the 6th – 9th June 2022. Jammers located within 3km of 550307N 0023320W.

Activity will take place between 0900-1800 UTC on each day. Activity will affect UAS control and situational awareness devices within a radius of 15NM. Frequencies are 432-446MHz, 863-870MHz, 900-928MHz, 2300-2800MHz and 5725-5875MHz.

RPAS control and some electronic situational awareness devices may suffer intermittent or total failure. An associated NOTAM has been raised.

For further information or feedback contact

Emergency cease jamming contact:

Trials Management Officer via Spadeadam Range Controller: 01697 747321 Ext 6386, 6375 or 6388


General Discussion / SafeSky App
« on: May 23, 2021, 01:43:21 pm »
I was testing Safe Skies yesterday whilst being monitored by another user on the ground, seemed pretty seamless if you have 3 or 4G, the track shows when I was turning the Funke on and off.

It's not so much being seamless as the delay when an aircraft is travelling at 120mph(190km/h).

In paragliding we have used various apps and hardware GSM/3G/4G trackers, but we are not using them for any sort of collision warnings, and are flying at air speeds of between 35km/h and 55km/h.

We have used these devices and apps very successfully for over ten years to organise retrieves, to monitor the safe flying of competitors in competitions and to automate competition scoring. The competition server sends alerts to the competition HQ for unexpected descents or any other emergency situation behaviour.

But we do not for use them for anti collision...

Without being able to quantify the dealt exactly we can't say how good they are for anti collision...

Technical Support / Making Bluetooth pairing persistent?
« on: April 09, 2021, 11:36:43 pm »
I'm struggling to track down some interference on the physical audio output from a Rosetta, but one work around would be to use the Bluetooth out into a Microavionics interface.

However, Bluetooth isn't persistent as we have discussed before.

How much of an issue would it be to make Bluetooth pairings persistent?

OGN-R PilotAware / ATOM GRID software enhancements
« on: February 25, 2021, 11:50:54 am »
Just a shout out to our developers to say a big thank you for the continuing enhancements on the remote access to the ATOM GRID stations, and particularly the easy ground station status on the VRS, as we can now see if down, how long for, and PSU status, which is always some thing to eliminate in troubleshooting.

Compared with the OGN stuff, I think we only see ATOM GRID, so we don't have to work out if it's something that helps us with FLARM or not.

I'm seeing more stations all the time, especially where they are needed.

Technical Support / Rosetta does not save ICAO HEX code
« on: December 20, 2020, 02:36:10 pm »
New Rosetta, ICAO code from G-INFO entered and saved, on returning to the config page the code has changed back.

Done several times with same result.

Lockdown makes it harder to video as device at someone else's place.

Other config changes accepted.

Time was limited to investigate, any thoughts?

Tablet used is overly keen to show cached offline and this will need to be disabled before it gets used in the cockpit...

General Discussion / Letting new members in?
« on: December 01, 2020, 09:46:59 am »
I think we've got at least one new person wanting to join but waiting for admin approval?

General Discussion / EC Rebate - thoughts, time scales, etc...
« on: November 25, 2020, 09:41:10 pm »
Hi all,

My EC Rebate has been approved for my PAW.

I signed up for a Portal Account in October. I waited until the PAW was invoiced then went through the ID verification, which took longer than expected, roughly about a week due to their workload, they say 2-3 days. As soon as I had the invoice & ID verification complete, I applied for the Rebate on the online form, it has taken just over two weeks for them to process.

Sorted and happy with that...

Hi all,

I've put this in general discussion as it's not a PAW support issue as the PAW works fine. I'm just hoping to blag some flexwing experience of aerials.

I'm after either:

A replacement aerial and cable for the one mounted in the P&M Quantum on the nose, either a brand new original or a very close replacement with known good performance, with source of same please;


A replacement cable for the one used in the original fitting.

I need to get off my backside and look at the connector on the other end, as it could be just as simple as ordering a BNC to "whatever that connector is" and replacing that piece of cable.

Thoughts please?

OGN-R PilotAware / PWEgerton no remote VRS?
« on: September 05, 2020, 03:40:10 pm »

Looming at VRS remotely on PWEgerton, no display of aircraft, but a heartbeat very recently on glidernet.

rlogin gives a response, I'm in at terminal level, and the unit responds to commands like ps ax or date.

Is there a problem on 360Radar or somewhere else?

General Discussion / Reasons to avoid using EC
« on: August 21, 2020, 05:42:24 pm »
This thread has been forked from the Saving VRS Options at this point:,1897.msg20306.html#msg20306

We were discussing the reasons why not everyone carries EC.

There are some negative outcomes for doing so, and with the rewards dropping off, whether we like or not, the current vibe is that peole are considering removing their transponders.

This article provides a back drop:

Hi Steve,

I had previously read Peter's article and have to admit to having mixed feelings about it. Whereas nothing can condone the way in which the CAA automatically assume you are guilty and can effectively ground you if you deign to take them to task, I do have my suspicions that not all infringers are as innocent as they claim. The technique by which the CAA judge us is certainly far too 'agricultural', especially given the tolerances allowable for altitude but I also think far too few pilots are willing to get on the radio and talk to the people they are getting close to. I have no snags in calling up the airspace operator and getting a traffic service. That way he has me identified and can, therefore reduce his separation on 'known' traffic AND he is very likely to let me know if he is getting nervous about my position/altitude.....which may stop me infringing in the first place. Like many, I also have the ubiquitous moving map but, it would seem, many of the actual infringers do not. I'm not being a girly swot when I say that I don't push the limits for getting close to airspace unless I'm talking to ATC and that involves using my transponder, until they enter the 21st Century and get start using ADSB. I don't see transponders in the way that Peter does but I am certainly no apologist for the CAA, who are going to (a)have to alter the way they prosecute and (b)should be overseen by a higher authority, instead of being able to do as they wish.

For what it's worth, I don't see the problem going away when ADSB is in use, especially if mandated. ATC will be then be able to see all, with no ability for the pilot to turn it off and if they choose to use GPS altitude to decide we've busted airspace then I reckon we're on a greater hiding to nothing because that seems to be a LOT less accurate and reliable than the Mode C return.

Yeah, maybe a subject for a separate thread  ;D

My point is that the infringers are not necessarily claiming to be innocent, but are complaining about disproportionate response, especially when the inquiry is retrospective, with no disruption to other air traffic. Sometimes they are in contact with ATC, in very complicated bits of airspace, and infringe whilst waiting for a permission.

Listening to the radio and being given a zone transit "not above 1,500ft" when sat in someone else's aircraft has me making a mental note not to bother with the same to cross the Thames Estuary in a two stroke.

You have been lucky in getting a traffic service without snags as often when listening to Farnborough LARS in their area I hear "Traffic service declined due to controller workload" and unfortunately that traffic service only includes transponders as far as I'm aware.

I use the radio all the time but in a way where I'm not obliged to use it when trying to concentrate on other stuff. 4/5 years ago, a ten transponder bulk buy was possible on another forum. You wouldn't get that now, I don't think.

I'm confident in Kent that if you mentioned a transponder bulk buy now, you'd get the offer of two or three second hand transponders...

GPS altitude is very accurate now, but if certified, you're probably tied to GPS. All the uncertified stuff is now GPS/GLONASS/Galileo/Beidou receiving, and some instruments like the Syride Sys'Evo can auto set QNH offset on the baro sensor using GNSS systems in a couple of minutes after boot up.

If the CAA want to run airspace on GNSS, we'll fly to that.

If they mandate ADS-B then they'll need to be sure there's enough bandwidth. If you look at Skyways thermal and flight tracing then it could be that a good flying days with sailplanes, HG & PG could really have some areas of the sky lit up...

I think it depends on what you want from EC. I'd like to know and decide for myself, rather than having to fly a fixed course with reporting points and sometimes being told "no service". When there is no service and I don't need a transit then I have a £1,200 paperweight telling tales on me. OTOH, transits are pretty much guaranteed at quiet times.

I tend to keep a long way out of the way of controlled airspace, even with an FRTOL and a moving map display. It's not what enjoyable flying is for me.

Whilst I don't condone infringements, a coupe of primary return pings won't end up with a difficult phone conversation, whereas the transponder, with less than accurate altitude it could be argued, gets you done...

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