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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: January 20, 2024, 09:58:20 am »

Now after a good number of flights, I'm confident that the "waiting for device" issue is fixed.

I added guest account to my Android tablet.
Uninstalled Pingmon.

Not had a single connection drop out since adding the guest account and I don't have to remember to set pingmon running.

ATB
Deker

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: November 06, 2023, 06:57:41 pm »

40min flight on Sunday:
Ping mon not running.
Guest account on my Samsung Tablet.

Rock solid connection without a single "waiting for device".
Will uninstall pingmon and do further tests, after plane comes out of annual, but this looks like a fix.

ATB
Derek.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: October 26, 2023, 06:19:18 pm »

the Samsung tablet is totally unusable with PilotAware Classic, waiting for device pops up in flight at random times when navigating with SD. Most frustrating and totally unusable.

I agree, it is distracting to the point of being dangerous.

Pingmon worked for me, but it is one more thing to remember to set running before take-orff.

Prior to my last flight I had set up a guest account on my Samsung Android tablet, suggested earlier up the thread.
It was a short flight of 30 min but I didn't get a "waiting for device warning" (ping mon not running) where I'd normally get the message within 10 mins.

I need to uninstall Pingmon and test with again over a few more flights. I'll report back once done.

Deker

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: October 10, 2023, 08:36:58 pm »

Last flight I forgot to run pingmon and after about 10mins I got the dreaded "waiting for device".
Quickly started pingmon and was all OK for the rest of the flight and the return.

i've set up a guest account on my android 13 device and will test to see if this is an alternative fix to pingmon.
ATB
Deker.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device - A Breakthrough ?

« on: September 23, 2023, 05:14:17 pm »

I think I have found a kludge/work around for the problem (I hesitate to call it a fix).

 PingMon (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mishuto.pingtest&hl=en&gl=US)

Brooklands

Hi Brooklands,

I tested with Pingmon running and no "waiting for device" during my 1:15min flight today, hallelujah!!
This does does give further evidence it's a Android 13 'thing', not PAW or hardware issue.
Wonder if PAW can "reverse ping" the tablet to generate the same effect?

ATB
Deker.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: September 21, 2023, 07:56:16 pm »

Paw does not advertise itself as a router, unless you explicitly select it to on the network page

Skyecho DOES advertise itself as a router, so as you say devices prefer it in order to gain access to the internet, which is totally bogus, as it is not a router

You could enable the router feature AND add passwords to restrict access

I have router enabled and passworded, I still get "waiting for device".

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: September 04, 2023, 10:12:46 pm »

I think this issue is unrelated to power
The fact that Deker has a solid client on the apple device, but not on the Android
Points to an issue with the android device I think

Thx Lee

To add, flying buddy flew one leg and his iOS (and PAW) functioned perfectly also my phone running SD radar page concurrently.
It appears only to be my new Android tablet that has the issue. My old tablet and current phone, also both android are OK.

ATB
Deker.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: September 01, 2023, 07:01:35 pm »

I'm leaning in the same direction. I have had a couple of 'Waiting For Device' messages but they did not last very long and auto-connected again. The most recent was after only about 15 minutes. I have a serial connection to my Skyview HDX and traffic remained on the Dynon screen. To add to the confusion, my PAW is served GPS from the HDX and the GPS remained on the HDX, so I do not think it is GPS related.

I'm almost certain it's not GPS related.
With phone and (new) tablet running simultaneous, only the tablet has the problem. Phone is rock solid every flight.
Also, when I use my other (older) tablet in place of the new tablet (same location in the plane) , this also runs without the dropouts.
I think it is an Android version issue (or my tablet is knackered - don't think so as it works fine on my home wifi).

I've tried all the recommendations I can find on internet for wifi dropping but has had no affect, which sort of make me think it is a PAW / android  version incompatibility.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: August 29, 2023, 07:22:48 am »

Couple of flights yesterday.
Wifi was set on 100mw, set this to 50mw
Running Skydemon on my 'bad' tablet and good phone.
Lots of disconnections on the tablet after 10 to 15 mins, but the phone was rock solid.
I think this more of an Android issue than a hardware problem.
I'll try putting a sim in the tablet to see if its is a network problem? (clutching straws)

ATB
Deker

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: August 14, 2023, 06:14:16 pm »

Same problem yesterday, multiple "waiting for device" this is making my PAW effectively useless combo with my Samsung tablet.

Has there been any updates to fix this issue?

TA
Deker

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: June 26, 2023, 05:54:00 pm »

Hi Lee,

I have one of the betas from a couple of weeks ago, I'll check the version, think its 20230512.
the flight should have been using igrid as my phone was set to hotspot but didn't check the PAW page as had Skydemon running.
MAC is B827EB7BC28D.

There were 2 or 3 quick disconnects after about 10 mins and automatically reconnected each time, then a disconnect and after about 15 secs I turned wifi on off on and it was mainly ok for rest of the flight.

The pattern is reasonably repeatable. OK for 10 to 15 mins, then get disconnects which eventually requires a wifi on off on.
Only a problem with my new tablet running android 13.  Phone also on Android 13 is faultless for whole flight.

One difference is phone has active SIM where tablet has GSM capability but I don't have a SIM fitted.

ATB
Deker.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: June 24, 2023, 08:31:35 pm »

Will repeat the test on next trip to check if this wasn't a fluke.
If this works, can PAW spoof a GSM connection even when a real GSM is not available?

ATB
Deker.

Same test but today I got the "waiting for device message" even with GSM connection.
This is becoming a real pain.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: June 17, 2023, 05:58:15 pm »

Short trip to Leicester today, got the usual "waiting for connection" message after about 20 mins.
Returning after a chance meeting and chat with Brooklands at Leic' I set as the "GSM" hotspot and no drop out.
PAW has always been set to "Router mode".

Will repeat the test on next trip to check if this wasn't a fluke.
If this works, can PAW spoof a GSM connection even when a real GSM is not available?

ATB
Deker.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: May 28, 2023, 07:35:56 am »

Flight on 27th/5/23 after clearing all the wifi settings (forget networks) on my tablet resulted in no change.
Connection was OK for about 15mins, then multiple "waiting for device banner" warnings but connected automatically in 1-2 seconds.
Then after about 8 disconnections, it stubbornly refused to auto connect so had to toggle wifi on/off/on.
Phone operating perfectly throughout.

Might check the PAW wifi power next time.

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Technical Support / Re: Waiting for device

« on: May 14, 2023, 05:38:08 pm »

I updated the PAW firmware to 20230512
Had a quick pootle about this afternoon, got the message after about 15mins, reconnected automatically and was Ok for rest of the flight.
I've just checked, and power saving is off.
Running android 13

PAW is set to UDP.
Phone worked as second screen without wifi dropout.

Will check the wifi power next time.

ATB
Deker