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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM With Rosetta in France

« on: April 02, 2024, 06:05:27 pm »

Thank you Steveu for your feedback
it doesn't seem to come from the antenna,I crossed the 2 antennas and the large antenna the one for 869.5 mhz put in place of the 1090mhz allows to receive adsb the PAW tab remains red even with the small antenna connected to the 869.5 mhz
my skills stop here and indeed a help to see if the internal module PAW is functional would be welcome .... thank you for your help

It's not valid swap as the ADS-B signal is many, many times the size of the PAW one. You would probably get some ADS-B signal with no antenna at all.

However, my guess now is the P3i transceiver...

Time for a support email to PilotAware thremselves, or maybe they will post here.

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM With Rosetta in France

« on: April 02, 2024, 02:32:00 pm »

Red on P3i means no P3i is being received.

P3i will give you METARs, which is why there are no METARs.

Check the cable from the PAW to the P3i antenna. Are the antennas on the PAW itself, or are they internal/external ones? If the antenna is on the PAW, check it is seated properly.

Someone who knows the Rosetta better than I do will need to tell you how to check the P3i module itself...

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM With Rosetta in France

« on: March 27, 2024, 08:01:08 pm »

Good evening
I fly in France and unfortunately there are very few ATOM stations, if any at all...
I think that the flarm signals are recovered via the OGN by the network of my GSM and transmitted by rs232 and wifi to the Dynon and aircrew screens.
In the last few days these signals have disappeared from the Rosetta, hence my question.

Rosetta doesn't use the OGN. Reasons are explained elsewhere. OGN derived FLARM signals aren't therefore a Rosetta issue.

There is a big issue with the OGN that until the stations are all manually updated, there will be a loss of functionality.

In order to receive FLARM via iGrid you'd need some way of injecting it into iGrid?

From the PAW site:

Latest Software Release : 20230316

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General Discussion / Re: Aircrew.co.uk and PilotAware Playback Sites

« on: March 27, 2024, 12:04:42 pm »

Hi Steve, I had tried that site (and just tried again), but i couldn't get it to work with a PAW .trk file, it returns "No valid GPS Data detected", whichever output option is chosen.

Yes, I checked it out last night, and have emailed the developer.

It has worked with .trk files in the past as stored emails verified.

I'll keep you posted.

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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM With Rosetta in France

« on: March 26, 2024, 04:59:19 pm »

Good evening
Is it possible to have an idea of how long it will take for the flarms to reappear on rosetta?
my latest version is 20230316 maybe I forgot to update...
Bonne soirée

AIUI it's not a Rosetta function - Rosetta gets FLARM traffic from the ATOM ground stations which do the decoding from FLARM and uplink as P3i(PilotAware protocol).

The ATOM stations are all automatically updated whenever PilotAware HQ releases new software to them - no one has to anything.

If you're not seeing FLARM on Rosetta, are you near ground stations?

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Technical Support / Re: External antenna gps - ok to mount on an aluminium bracket?

« on: March 26, 2024, 02:42:35 pm »

Has it got clear, unimpeded views of the sky?

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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: FLARM to change protocol

« on: March 26, 2024, 02:41:15 pm »

By safesky directly

FLARM encryption has changed and this is affecting the OGN as stations are manually updated.

I can't see this would affect SafeSky <-> SafeSky comms...

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General Discussion / Re: Aircrew.co.uk and PilotAware Playback Sites

« on: March 26, 2024, 02:37:34 pm »

It's been a while but I have uploaded .trk files to GPS Visualizer:

https://www.gpsvisualizer.com

Can't remember if they showed traffic...

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OGN-R PilotAware / Re: FLARM to change protocol

« on: March 21, 2024, 07:54:54 pm »

gliders were available with safesky

SafeSky directly or via the OGN?

FLARM is a bit banjaxed... more here:

https://xcmag.com/news/xc-tracer-flarm-collide-over-software-update/

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General Discussion / Re: Suction mount advice

« on: March 19, 2024, 08:25:29 pm »

Loads on eBay or the one the SE2 comes with...

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Technical Support / Re: adsb (out) not showing on Vector

« on: March 19, 2024, 05:43:16 pm »

Any suggestions would be very welcome.

I'm not that familiar with the Funke, but my first port of call would be to check the coax cable from the back of unit to the aerial.

If it's a BNC, then checking the the centre pin has not been pushed back in and is full inserted in the connector body, and the that both the inner and outer conductor buzz as continuous with a multimeter from one end to the other. Is the aerial grounded properly to the metal skin of the aircraft, if it needs a ground plane?

Either connector corroded? Quick squirt with contact cleaning spray?

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General Discussion / Re: Aircrew.co.uk- not secure

« on: March 19, 2024, 05:40:28 pm »

Are you trying to get to the site with https in the front of it?

Try:

https://playback.pilotaware.com/playback/

You do not have the rights to access the directory above...

Your tablet and phone may be autocompleting...

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General Discussion / Re: Rosetta FX

« on: March 03, 2024, 09:48:06 am »

I think it would be much more powerful; and statistically reliable if PAW did this analysis with bulk data. I’m hoping it’ll show how  much Igrid and atom has done for the benefit of GA

AIUI, because of the huge amount of data, mode-S is not kept for any length of time.

Those of us running ATOM stations know how much it has done for the the community, without ATOM, we would have no FLARM on Classic or Rosetta.

I'm exactly 10km from a gliding club; my ground station and the one at the gliding site are out of line of sight of each other. VRS displays at either club show things the ground station at that club can't see.

You have only to look at a VRS running off any ground station to see the enormous value of them. A VRS in the clubhouse, like at Sandown, will show pilots, PAW owning on or not, that paragliders with FLARM are on the cliffs at Blackgang... that's situational awareness before take off.

A lot has been written, neutrals will be aware of what's going on but some sections of the GA community have closed ears and minds.

Horses to water...

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General Discussion / Re: Rosetta FX

« on: March 03, 2024, 09:10:24 am »

I wonder if PAW have enough data to do some statistical analysis? Compare a set of flight logs versus the MLAT data available that day?

Right now, my conclusion is that unless having a small form factor or flarm is a critical issue then the FX is grossly overpriced for potentially less feature functionality.

Any existing PAW user will have that data already for their own flights stored in their own device in the track logs.

It just needs to be uploaded to PAW playback and viewed.

As for cost, every pilot will have their own use case which will determine value for money.

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General Discussion / Re: Rosetta FX

« on: March 02, 2024, 04:44:03 pm »

Thanks - that's only a partial answer though.

Yes - i agree that a chunck of the contacts i see on Rosetta are bearlngless.
The question then is, if i have an FX unit instead - how much of that do I lose. e.g. if 50% of the traffic i currently see if mode c/s and i only get 50% of that via rebroadcst (FX) then i've list 25% of the traffic i used to see.
i'm not picking fault - i'm just trying to figure out if buy a new rosetta or new rosetta fx

It depends on how you have set things up. As I understand it, bearingless targets are not rebroadcast. Any C/S (not MLAT) stuff you get on Rosetta has been directly received. The mode C/S stuff you get rebroadcast is stuff that has been located by MLAT. I'm not a PAW insider and I'm just theorising here. I have also cut down on the number of things I see by configuring the PAW to limit audio alerts just to close by targets.

Bearingless stuff is, however, fed to servers so if enough ATOM stations see them, then can then be located via MLAT.

You also need to decide the quality and usefulness of a bearingless target?

I'm hoping to try a Rosetta FX soon and I'm not worried about the loss of bearingless targets. I'd have them if they were on offer but if not, I'd let them drop.