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General Discussion / Re: PilotAware Classic Software Update
« on: November 24, 2020, 09:59:05 am »
Thank you very much for the explanation, that makes it all clear. I did actually mean USB stick when I said SD card in my post above.
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General Discussion / Re: PilotAware Classic Software Update
« on: November 23, 2020, 04:11:07 pm »
Many thanks for that, I have saved that link for future reference. That link does show an update PGP file for the latest version. That is 2 versions later than mine. Can I still just apply the update as the previous update only has a full install.
I am also only an android user. I gave up with Apple years ago.
I am also only an android user. I gave up with Apple years ago.
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General Discussion / PilotAware Classic Software Update
« on: November 23, 2020, 12:37:43 pm »
Hi All,
I love the PilotAware, but I do find finding the latest updates quite daunting. I currently have a Classic with software version 20190621. I received an email from the mailing list in September saying there was a new version available. But the email contained no links as to where to download it and very little information regarding what type of update I need to do. I am used to using a PGP file on an SD card. The link in the email mentions a PGP file but the link point to a document on assembling a Rosetta.
After a lot of google searching I found a link to the current PGP file but now I am unsure sure whether I can just apply it over the version I have or I have to do a full manual install.
Current version seems to be 20201101. Can I just apply this to my current version or do I have to do a full manual install?
For the future, it would be nice if update notifications were a little bit clearer and contain links as to where to find things. Unless I am looking in all the wrong places, updates seem to be very confusing.
Regards
Steve
I love the PilotAware, but I do find finding the latest updates quite daunting. I currently have a Classic with software version 20190621. I received an email from the mailing list in September saying there was a new version available. But the email contained no links as to where to download it and very little information regarding what type of update I need to do. I am used to using a PGP file on an SD card. The link in the email mentions a PGP file but the link point to a document on assembling a Rosetta.
After a lot of google searching I found a link to the current PGP file but now I am unsure sure whether I can just apply it over the version I have or I have to do a full manual install.
Current version seems to be 20201101. Can I just apply this to my current version or do I have to do a full manual install?
For the future, it would be nice if update notifications were a little bit clearer and contain links as to where to find things. Unless I am looking in all the wrong places, updates seem to be very confusing.
Regards
Steve
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Technical Support / Raspberry PI 3
« on: September 07, 2019, 09:17:12 pm »
Hi All,
Just a very quick question. Is it still the case that PilotAware runs on a raspberry PI 3 B but NOT the raspberry PI 3 B plus?
Many thanks in advance.
Just a very quick question. Is it still the case that PilotAware runs on a raspberry PI 3 B but NOT the raspberry PI 3 B plus?
Many thanks in advance.
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Technical Support / Re: Rosetta and USB
« on: June 02, 2018, 09:04:16 am »
Many thanks Ian.
Now managed to find them. Not a great design to be honest. I had to pull with quite some force to get that cover off. I don't think it will be long before that breaks. A better design would have been to put a couple of USB extenders so that the 2 free USB ports are in the bottom of the case and you don't have to take the cover off. In my aircraft, I also connect it to a flarm device so this cover would have to be off all the time which makes it look a bit ugly.
I might try and make up a dual USB extender and fit it in the bottom of the case. I can see a few broken cases coming up. I hope these covers will be sold as spares in the future.
Now managed to find them. Not a great design to be honest. I had to pull with quite some force to get that cover off. I don't think it will be long before that breaks. A better design would have been to put a couple of USB extenders so that the 2 free USB ports are in the bottom of the case and you don't have to take the cover off. In my aircraft, I also connect it to a flarm device so this cover would have to be off all the time which makes it look a bit ugly.
I might try and make up a dual USB extender and fit it in the bottom of the case. I can see a few broken cases coming up. I hope these covers will be sold as spares in the future.
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Technical Support / Rosetta and USB
« on: June 02, 2018, 12:28:05 am »
Hi All,
Just wondered how you got access to the USB ports on Rosetta. I have just got mine and cannot figure our where they are. They are certainly not accessible externally and I cannot see any panels that would easily come off to get to them.
Just wondered how you got access to the USB ports on Rosetta. I have just got mine and cannot figure our where they are. They are certainly not accessible externally and I cannot see any panels that would easily come off to get to them.
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Technical Support / Re: PAW test with Trig TT21
« on: February 24, 2018, 01:18:32 am »
Just a few questions.
What type of aircraft is it (metal, composite, wood etc)?
Are you trying it on the ground or in the air?
How far is the Trig main box from the antenna?
What coax are you using?
I ask all these questions because of previous experience issues. If you are on the ground and your transponder antenna is on the bottom, the PAW may not be seeing the signal. Especially if it is a metal aircraft. Hence the reason for a 2nd unit outside.
Just had a recent problem with coax, if RG58 and more than 2ft is being used there could be lots of signal loss for ADS-B.
Also, are you sure you are getting a valid GPS signal on the Trig (push the FN button a couple of times and if there are just dashes there then it is not getting a valid GPS position).
If you are not using ADS-B (i.e. no GPS connected), then it will not show on the traffic screen unless you are being interrogated by ATC which is unlikely if in a hangar or on the ground.
What type of aircraft is it (metal, composite, wood etc)?
Are you trying it on the ground or in the air?
How far is the Trig main box from the antenna?
What coax are you using?
I ask all these questions because of previous experience issues. If you are on the ground and your transponder antenna is on the bottom, the PAW may not be seeing the signal. Especially if it is a metal aircraft. Hence the reason for a 2nd unit outside.
Just had a recent problem with coax, if RG58 and more than 2ft is being used there could be lots of signal loss for ADS-B.
Also, are you sure you are getting a valid GPS signal on the Trig (push the FN button a couple of times and if there are just dashes there then it is not getting a valid GPS position).
If you are not using ADS-B (i.e. no GPS connected), then it will not show on the traffic screen unless you are being interrogated by ATC which is unlikely if in a hangar or on the ground.
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Technical Support / Re: PAW test with Trig TT21
« on: February 23, 2018, 06:37:36 pm »
Is you aircraft showing on the traffic page?
The LAA and BMAA purely require a printout of this screen showing your aircraft and also that it has the correct ADS-B parameters (SIL and SDA must be zero. These are the last 2 numbers on the ADS-B status).
I myself have a 2nd PAW that I browse with my laptop and just do a print of the screen from the browser to a connected printer. Your LAA inspector may want to witness this as he will sign the printout.
There is nothing specific in PAW to do this for you that I am aware of.
The LAA and BMAA purely require a printout of this screen showing your aircraft and also that it has the correct ADS-B parameters (SIL and SDA must be zero. These are the last 2 numbers on the ADS-B status).
I myself have a 2nd PAW that I browse with my laptop and just do a print of the screen from the browser to a connected printer. Your LAA inspector may want to witness this as he will sign the printout.
There is nothing specific in PAW to do this for you that I am aware of.
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Technical Support / Owner column
« on: February 23, 2018, 06:31:11 pm »
Hi All
I just wondered how details get in to the right hand column of the traffic screen (aircraft details / owner).
For my own aircraft, this has always been blank. But when I see my colleagues aircraft on PAW, it says the aircraft type and privately owned in that column. He has the same permit aircraft as me and says he has not done anything special so I just wondered where it had picked this information up from.
Out of all the aircraft on the traffic page, some do give that information and others are blank.
Regards
I just wondered how details get in to the right hand column of the traffic screen (aircraft details / owner).
For my own aircraft, this has always been blank. But when I see my colleagues aircraft on PAW, it says the aircraft type and privately owned in that column. He has the same permit aircraft as me and says he has not done anything special so I just wondered where it had picked this information up from.
Out of all the aircraft on the traffic page, some do give that information and others are blank.
Regards
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General Discussion / Re: Funke TRT800H and PilotAware
« on: February 19, 2018, 01:35:07 pm »
Just some further update. I believe this to be a coax issue and not a Funke issue so you may not need a firmware update.
It seems the Trigs are a bit more tolerable of bad coax than the Funke is. Unfortunately for me, I have only just bought the aircraft and installed the Funke on the original wire and cabling to upgrade the original Filser transponder (non ADSB). I didn't check what was there. I ripped it all apart over the weekend only to find that the coax was RG58 and well beyond the length recommended for RG58 for a transponder (around 7ft). The Trig works on this but the Funke doesn't. Replacing the coax with RG400 (which is what I usually only ever use) and the Funke has sprung in to life. I guess this is the reason I was getting it shown on PAW on an adhoc basis and I guess when flying and away from all objects, the coax was just about coping. RG58 is not recommended for transponders at all and RG400 up to about 8ft.
I also guess that it works perfectly on Mode A and Mode C as this is just interrogations and you probably wouldn't notice a few dropped ones on a ramp tester whereas ADSB is a constant broadcast. Waiting to try this fix with another person who has the issue that I suspect also has RG58 coax.
It seems the Trigs are a bit more tolerable of bad coax than the Funke is. Unfortunately for me, I have only just bought the aircraft and installed the Funke on the original wire and cabling to upgrade the original Filser transponder (non ADSB). I didn't check what was there. I ripped it all apart over the weekend only to find that the coax was RG58 and well beyond the length recommended for RG58 for a transponder (around 7ft). The Trig works on this but the Funke doesn't. Replacing the coax with RG400 (which is what I usually only ever use) and the Funke has sprung in to life. I guess this is the reason I was getting it shown on PAW on an adhoc basis and I guess when flying and away from all objects, the coax was just about coping. RG58 is not recommended for transponders at all and RG400 up to about 8ft.
I also guess that it works perfectly on Mode A and Mode C as this is just interrogations and you probably wouldn't notice a few dropped ones on a ramp tester whereas ADSB is a constant broadcast. Waiting to try this fix with another person who has the issue that I suspect also has RG58 coax.
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General Discussion / Re: Funke TRT800H and PilotAware
« on: February 14, 2018, 11:20:02 am »
Just an update for anyone that is interested.
During my search across the internet for this issue, I came across a few other people with the same issue. I also found a couple of posts on here where the OP had asked a similar question although they did have a much earlier version of the firmware (4.
. I also discovered another pilot had reported the issue to Funke as well.
I had a reply from Funke this morning and there first suggestion was moving the PilotAware unit a greater distance away from the transponder. They said that due to the Funke being a class 1 transponder and putting out double the power of a class 2 (i.e. Trig TT21), it is possible to overload the DVB-T antennas. I have had no difference at 2m or 30m and I have never had an issue with a Trig TT22 which is also a class 1. They also said they were obtaining a PilotAware unit over the next week or two to test the issue.
During my search across the internet for this issue, I came across a few other people with the same issue. I also found a couple of posts on here where the OP had asked a similar question although they did have a much earlier version of the firmware (4.
. I also discovered another pilot had reported the issue to Funke as well.I had a reply from Funke this morning and there first suggestion was moving the PilotAware unit a greater distance away from the transponder. They said that due to the Funke being a class 1 transponder and putting out double the power of a class 2 (i.e. Trig TT21), it is possible to overload the DVB-T antennas. I have had no difference at 2m or 30m and I have never had an issue with a Trig TT22 which is also a class 1. They also said they were obtaining a PilotAware unit over the next week or two to test the issue.
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General Discussion / Re: Funke TRT800H and PilotAware
« on: February 13, 2018, 03:11:01 pm »
Thanks everyone for your comments.
I have fired an email off to Funke but after further testing, it does seem that the Funke only sends the info when it is being interrogated. I had another play today and whilst on the apron, I was getting nothing on the PAW even though the indicator on the Funke was flashing on odd occasions to say it was sending. Whilst moving the aircraft, I noticed that it would appear on the PAW traffic screen briefly and then disappear.
Then I flew the aircraft and took my laptop and 2nd PAW unit with me. During the flight, the Funke was appearing on the traffic screen as full ADS-B even with the correct value for SIL and SDA (set to zero as the LAA require).
When I landed and stopped, the Funke disappeared from the traffic screen and again whilst taxying, it would appear briefly and then disappear.
This is definitely not how I anticipated it would work. With the Trigs, as soon as your turn them to alt, they appear on the PAW traffic page all the time whether flying or not and whether being interrogated or not. Surely this is a mistake by Funke, I have now found another couple of people who say their TRT800H work the same way. According to any documentation I have read, a transponder with ES should broadcast at a regular intervals regardless of being interrogated by ATC.
I have fired an email off to Funke but after further testing, it does seem that the Funke only sends the info when it is being interrogated. I had another play today and whilst on the apron, I was getting nothing on the PAW even though the indicator on the Funke was flashing on odd occasions to say it was sending. Whilst moving the aircraft, I noticed that it would appear on the PAW traffic screen briefly and then disappear.
Then I flew the aircraft and took my laptop and 2nd PAW unit with me. During the flight, the Funke was appearing on the traffic screen as full ADS-B even with the correct value for SIL and SDA (set to zero as the LAA require).
When I landed and stopped, the Funke disappeared from the traffic screen and again whilst taxying, it would appear briefly and then disappear.
This is definitely not how I anticipated it would work. With the Trigs, as soon as your turn them to alt, they appear on the PAW traffic page all the time whether flying or not and whether being interrogated or not. Surely this is a mistake by Funke, I have now found another couple of people who say their TRT800H work the same way. According to any documentation I have read, a transponder with ES should broadcast at a regular intervals regardless of being interrogated by ATC.
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General Discussion / Funke TRT800H and PilotAware
« on: February 12, 2018, 04:37:46 pm »
Hi Everyone,
It seems there are quite a few people on here connecting the PAW GPS out to the Funke TRT800H transponder. I have done this many times on the Trig TT21 but did it for the first time on a Funke over the weekend.
Everything connected up fine and the Funke was showing a valid GPS position. But using a 2nd PilotAware unit, it is not showing up on the traffic screen. Then moving the aircraft around, I noticed it briefly displayed on the PAW. Now on the Trig, it will show on the traffic screen permanently with the ADS-B parameters regardless of whether you are flying or on the ground in the hangar.
Does anyone know if the Funke only transmits ADS-B when it is being interrogated.
I have confirmed that the coax, antenna etc is all working by temporarily installing a Trig but whatever I do, I cannot get the Funke to display except briefly when the aircraft is being moved around the airfield. This has lead me to believe that it only transmits when it is being interrogated. I was under the impression that ADS-B should transmit at regular intervals regardless of whether it is being interrogated. Certainly, the Trig TT21 displays on the traffic screen as soon as it is turned to alt and this can be inside the hangar.
Regards
Steve
It seems there are quite a few people on here connecting the PAW GPS out to the Funke TRT800H transponder. I have done this many times on the Trig TT21 but did it for the first time on a Funke over the weekend.
Everything connected up fine and the Funke was showing a valid GPS position. But using a 2nd PilotAware unit, it is not showing up on the traffic screen. Then moving the aircraft around, I noticed it briefly displayed on the PAW. Now on the Trig, it will show on the traffic screen permanently with the ADS-B parameters regardless of whether you are flying or on the ground in the hangar.
Does anyone know if the Funke only transmits ADS-B when it is being interrogated.
I have confirmed that the coax, antenna etc is all working by temporarily installing a Trig but whatever I do, I cannot get the Funke to display except briefly when the aircraft is being moved around the airfield. This has lead me to believe that it only transmits when it is being interrogated. I was under the impression that ADS-B should transmit at regular intervals regardless of whether it is being interrogated. Certainly, the Trig TT21 displays on the traffic screen as soon as it is turned to alt and this can be inside the hangar.
Regards
Steve
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Technical Support / Re: ANtenna Cable Shortening
« on: June 16, 2017, 03:07:44 pm »
I think I will give it a go. They are fairly cheap anyway if I do mess it up.
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Technical Support / ANtenna Cable Shortening
« on: June 16, 2017, 09:51:25 am »
Hi All,
I have just purchased one of these:
http://pilotawarehardware.com/product/dipolecouplet-antenna/
I just wondered if I can shorten the cable. The antenna is mounted on the pillar that comes down the left of the windscreen (Fibreglass aircraft). But the lead is miles too long as the PilotAware unit is about 12 inches away. I have coiled up the cable but it's still a lot of cable to fit in a very condensed space behind the panel.
I have SMA crimp connectors and the tool for crimping them. Could I just cut off the end and make the cable the length I need it and then crimp on a new SMA connector.
I only ask as some of these antennas and GPS mouses that I have used in the past say 'do not shorten the cable', so I just wondered if shortening the cable will affect performance or tuning.
I have just purchased one of these:
http://pilotawarehardware.com/product/dipolecouplet-antenna/
I just wondered if I can shorten the cable. The antenna is mounted on the pillar that comes down the left of the windscreen (Fibreglass aircraft). But the lead is miles too long as the PilotAware unit is about 12 inches away. I have coiled up the cable but it's still a lot of cable to fit in a very condensed space behind the panel.
I have SMA crimp connectors and the tool for crimping them. Could I just cut off the end and make the cable the length I need it and then crimp on a new SMA connector.
I only ask as some of these antennas and GPS mouses that I have used in the past say 'do not shorten the cable', so I just wondered if shortening the cable will affect performance or tuning.
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