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The "Traffic" audio alert was coming from the EFIS. I could only disable it by turning off the GDL90 Tx on the PAW.

The EFIS was alerting to Traffic at a time when only ONE traffic item was being picked up by the PAW, a C/S Transponder. See here:

https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEdAAyG78d6aCtYK7

Question 1: Are C/S transponder traffic contacts transmitted in the GLD90 Tx data stream?
Question 2: If yes, how can they be filtered out of this stream or would using one of the other Tx settings do this by default?

If the answer to Question 1 is yes, I suspect this C/S traffic data arriving at the EFIS may be the cause of the NULL traffic being displayed under the aircraft icon.

See full transcript of query to Advanced Flight Systems below.

Thanks again for your help.

Andrew.
RV7
EI-EEO

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ADSB Nuisance audio "Traffic" warnings
Hello,

I have this week hardwired a PilotAware (https://www.pilotaware.com/) unit into EI-EEO. It has ADSB traffic reception amongst its many capabilities. I have successfully connected it to the EFIS using one of the serial ports set to ADSB 115k.

The EFIS picks up the PilotAware Traffic and displays it correctly. Only issue is that it incessantly reports an audio "Traffic" warning - this may be because the EFIS is receiving traffic that has no bearing or range data (raw Mode C/S Transponder signals). See real example here that the EFIS was reporting as "Traffic". This was the only traffic the PilotAware was picking up at the time, and the EFIS was reporting an audio "Traffic" alert. The only way to stop the "Traffic" alert was to break the Tx GDL90 data stream from PilotAware.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/bEdAAyG78d6aCtYK7

Q1. Is there a way to filter the audio "Traffic" warning for this scenario?
Q2. If I cannot filter, can I disable the warning, or outright delete the audio file?

Secondly and related, on the EFIS I see some NULL data showing up behind the self yellow aircraft ICON. See below photo for a maxed zoom of what it looks like. In this maxed zoom level, the Yellow Circle and two sets of noughts are not stationary, they are moving forward slightly in a cyclical manner, starting from behind/underneath the aircraft icon every three seconds or so.
Could this NULL traffic data be caused by traffic data records received that have null fields for bearing and range? i.e. the Mode S traffic shown above?

https://photos.app.goo.gl/rC1yYnUPxN4WFiaV9

Q3.  Is there a way to filter this out, as I am about to resize my aircraft ICON (make it smaller), and this NULL traffic signal around it will be a distraction.

I am in contact with PilotAware about this to see if it does indeed Tx all Traffic types as shown above and if so, whether it can be filtered in some fashion.

The reason I am going to all this trouble is that AFS is now supporting Airmate mapping/charts & plates and I have just purchased a subscription from them - though I am having issues with this too that Ken Chard is working directly with Airmate. Another topic

Thank you for your help,

Andrew.
RV 7
EI-EEO




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Thankyou Steve. It's an Advanced Flight Systems 5400.

It never occurred to me that the EFIS was generating the audio. The only word coming through was "Traffic". I will review the EFIS documentation and traffic audio alerting options.

For the picture, the yellow aircraft is me. Not sure what is generating the accompanying zeros and yellow arrow. I'll dig further on the configuration aspects of the EFIS.

Andrew.

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Guess what. Using the correct cable worked. I am now connected to the AFS using GDL90 at 115K baud.

Apologies for the time wasting.

I took a test flight last night. I have some tweaking to do. I was getting incessant "Traffic" alarms coming through on the audio and couldn't seem to be able to turn them off no matter what I changed in the config settings. Will test more.

Also, on the EFIS, the Aircraft Image was accompanied with an arrow and a couple of sets of 0000s. What are these, and is there a way to remove them from the feed to the EFIS? When I zoom out, they are merged with the aircraft image and when I zoom in as shown in the image they move back and forth in front of the aircraft image. See attached:

Any ideas how to remove?

Once again thank you all for your help and apologies for using the wrong cable!

Andrew.

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Thank you for the reply.

I may be using an incompatible cable.... I have just ordered this one:

https://ie.farnell.com/ftdi/usb-rs232-we-1800-bt-0-0/cable-usb-a-rs232-serial-convertor/dp/1686450

This look okay?

I'll let you know how I get on.

Best regards,

Andrew.


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Thank you Paul. Just back from the field (EIMH). I tried that setting pairing. No joy  :(

On the plus side, I am nearly finished the hard wired install of my PAW. I am replacing a TrafficWatch unit that was installed just above my EFIS so I can reuse the audio 3.5mm plug and external antenna. I will install a 768Mhz external antenna probably at next annual. I will put the mouse GPS antenna on the dashboard. Nice it is black and low profile. I am placing the PAW under the dash where the TrafficWatch was velcroed to the top of the EFIS. Being so light, not an issue.

Dyon actually bought AFS a few years back, with AFS slowly moving in the Dyon compatibility direction.

My aircraft is EI-EEO a Vans RV7 first flight Feb 2011.

Andrew.

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Thank you Peter. Yes, if TBD means that, which is what I suspect, then it just won't work. Hence my query.

Yes, I have taken the FTDI Tx wire and attached it to the applicable Rx pin in the EFIS. Black is connected to ground (EFIS casing).

The Traffic and ADSB photos above are the relevant available EFIS settings for the EFIS serial ports of which there are five available (0 to 4) on the AFS 5400.

How do we get Lee to respond to this query TBD? If it is To Be Done, the next question would be an ETA for its enablement.

Thanks all for your help.

Andrew.

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Thank you Steve.

Do you know what the (TBD) after the GDL90 and MAVLINK options mean? The reason I ask is because in the EFIS manual it states that the ADSB settings means the GDL90 protocol. Assuming that to be true then using the one of the three ADSB settings matched with the PAW GDL90 output at a matching speed should work..... but it doesn't.

Andrew.

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Technical Support / Enabling Traffic on an Advanced Flight Systems EFIS
« on: October 03, 2023, 09:18:32 pm »
Hello - New to the forum seeking assistance.

I have hardwired my Rosetta to my Advanced Flight Systems EFIS using a FTDI USB cable plugged into USB Port 1. Is GDL90 enabled on the Rosetta as I see a (TBD) beside GDL90 in the configuration page? I am asking because I can’t get the EFIS to acknowledge a connection to the Rosetta.

See pics attached of options on the EFIS.

Thank you all for your help.

Andrew Butler.
EI-EEO.

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