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General Discussion / Re: Not seeing mode C aircraft on Sky Demon

« on: June 05, 2018, 01:53:03 pm »

ref point 4 by admin
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4. Transponder Interrogation
Finally, an aircraft transponder will only emit Mode-C and Mode-S responses, when interrogated by ground RADAR.
in which case, dont expect aircraft either on or close to the ground to provide any Mode-C or Mode-S responses at all, this will likely only ever happen when airborne, and for sure only when within range/reception of a gound RADAR interrogation

so from above statement transponder equipped aircraft cant be see in paw
if   a/close to the ground
     b/in area not covered by radar

is that correct ?

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General Discussion / Re: new user of rosseta

« on: May 28, 2018, 12:48:42 pm »

ok thanks everyone for info
now i know.

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General Discussion / Re: new user of rosseta

« on: May 28, 2018, 09:15:56 am »

morning keith

moving forward
bear in mind i am not a techy person so forgive my ignorance in that area.
and i know this going to seem a radical change of direction for pa.
why continue to use pa hardware & establish base stations.
why not create an app for ios and android which sends location data etc to your server
which in turn sends traffic details back to the app.
(google and god knows who else have been tracking us for years)
live weather and all sorts of things could be added later.
it solves the hardware problem our friends in the gliders micro lights can  run the app on their phone or whatever.
and later on a cut down phone for drones. you get my drift.
the problem as i see it is initial takeup.
as you have  pointed out pa has  2000 units out their.
offer said app for free to those people and i'm sure the uptake would start the roll.
you are in the ideal position to do this. customers trust you, you are respected by the powers that be,
your company could do it.
i know it means a complete change in direction for pa
but someone is going to do it before long.

or as is probably the case i'm talking rubbish

regards

tony

 

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General Discussion / Re: new user of rosseta

« on: May 27, 2018, 09:44:01 pm »

hello keith
thank you for your detailed reply.
just to clarify a few points, the number of ga aircraft in the uk as published by caa jan 2018 approx 20,000
all types. please find attached pdf of the breakdown. as regards percentages i'm sure you have a better understanding than i.
also i think that everyone appreciates your efforts to increase safety.
i know i do.
perhaps i was expecting more from pilot aware. i don't know.
but these things have to be said in the interest of moving forward.
on sat a pilot i know said he has pa at home in a draw, does not use it. don't  work for him
maybe the tech to much for him. who knows
i wonder how many people have bought pa and put it in the draw and not bothered to pursue getting it to work.
anyway by the by back to real issue what is the way forward.
the caa preferred route is adsb   (and they usually get their way in the end)
but as you say very expensive.   
also size and weight, ok for aircraft but not gliders with their limited power supply etc.
it's certainly a conundrum.
i dont know the answer.

 i  await  further comments.

regards

tony

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General Discussion / Re: new user of rosseta

« on: May 27, 2018, 11:52:46 am »

hello lee and deker

first let me reply to lee
first as regards flarm simply pointing out that pilot aware will not see it
agreed that no where does pa say that it will.
i think that everyone flying will agree that gliders are arguably the most difficult aircraft to see.
the ogn network may improve that situation.
bearingless targets.  hmm something out their, perhaps a distraction, debatable if that is useful.

now then deker
we are in total agreement,pa has only to point out  the one you dont see once.
i will continue to use pa.
but the whole point of my original post the bottom line
is this.
with 2,000 units sold and 20,000 ga aircraft of varying types in the uk
the very best is 10% other aircraft having pa
sorry but thats the facts.
like it or not.

regards
tony

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General Discussion / Re: new user of rosseta

« on: May 26, 2018, 11:33:23 pm »

no need paul
they do have a base station
and i think its in the ogn network
and it appeared on pilotaware
but dont  count as an aircraft.

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General Discussion / Re: new user of rosseta

« on: May 26, 2018, 10:35:36 pm »

hello paul
thanks for the reply, as you say more the better.
interestingly  last week passing north abeam seighford
gliders did appear on pilot aware albeit fleetingly.
but perhaps people can see my frustration when at the airfield
today aircraft everywhere and not one appearing on pilot aware.
and yes i have got settings correct.
regards
tony

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General Discussion / Re: new user of rosseta

« on: May 26, 2018, 09:57:26 pm »

hello Gerry
thanks for your frank reply
as regards point 1/ whatever the reasons the fact remains  pilot aware will NOT alert you to gliders.
point 2/ yes i stand corrected.  pilot aware will inform you that something is out their.   
point 3/  position of antenna   who knows   the pdf   pilotaware antennas states positioning is very important.

really posting my conclusions on this forum is like  putting head in the  lions mouth.
but sometimes you have to call it how you see it. even to the point of using the dreaded negative word.

regards

Tony 

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General Discussion / new user of rosseta

« on: May 26, 2018, 09:06:55 pm »

hello everyone
have purchased rosseta and have been getting to know it
over the last few weeks.
it has to said not very impressed so far,this is how i see things
please correct me if i'm wrong.
1/pilot aware will not identify gliders equipped with flarm
2/pilot aware will not identify ga aircraft with non adsb transponders
3/pilot aware will identify  aircraft with p3i (subject to where you put the antenna)
4/pilot aware will identify  aircraft with adsb transponders

so my conclusions are is it really worth having pilot aware on board
when their are so many aircraft not being shown.

sorry to be so negative i know its a worthy cause
but its how i see it at the moment

am i wrong ?

tony