PilotAware
British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: carlp101 on March 05, 2017, 05:53:04 pm
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Hi All,
Further to a question I received I thought I'd share the details of how I connected my Pilot Aware to my SkyView Touch.
To connect the Pilot Aware unit to the SkyView you'll need to source a USB to Serial cable. I used this: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-to-Serial-Adapter-High-Quality-FTDI-CHIPSET-RS232-BT232-WIN-7-8-10-DB9-/151406431857?hash=item234086ce71:g:aWgAAOSwhlZYsbrR.
You will also need to solder TX and RX of one of an unused SkyView serial ports to an RS232 female connector. This is connected to the USB to RS232 cable above.
Configure the SkyView serial port connected to the USB cable in SERIAL PORT x SETUP, SERIAL IN DEVICE. I may have set it to GARMIN TIS TRAFFIC, but I can't remember at the moment. It may have been FLARM. Anyway, page 4-23 of the SkyView installation manual (v15.0) describes it (http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=SkyView_System_Installation_Guide-Rev_AA_v15_0.pdf). Configure the port to use 57600 baud.
Configure the USB port on the Pilot Aware to output FLARM traffic and set it to 57600 baud. All being well you should start to see the traffic symbols on the map and in the synthetic vision of the SkyView unit.
I tweaked the colours and some styles used on the SkyView maps to make them much easier to see. My post on the Dynon SV forum describes how to achieve it: http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1484509086
All the best.
Carl
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Hi Carl
Top marks for publishing this to help others. Great Post
Keith
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Looks good. Just wondering : Does the Dynon Sykview show bearingless targets?
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No. You get a verbal warning from SV, but nothing on the screen.
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Apologies for resurrecting an old thread.
Can anyone let me know what pins on the female D9 RS232 connector the Tx and Rx wires from the Dynon should be connected to? I'm thinking that the Tx for the device on one side of the plug would be the Rx for the device on the other side - or am I overthinking it?
Thanks
Steve
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You are correct, pin 2 is RD, pin 3 is TD, and pin 5 is GRD on the 9 pin DSub Connector. See https://www.db9-pinout.com/
Buy a good quality USB to serial cable as suggested by Carl, I tried a cheapo one and had no end of trouble, until I changed it.
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That's great, thanks. Have ordered the USB connector from the link above, when the d-sub connector arrives I will give it a go.
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Any thoughts on why my setup might not be working?
Cable purchased from link at the top of the thread.
Using serial port 3 on the Dynon, set to "FLARM TRAFFIC", 57600 baud, serial out device = NONE
USB port 2 on the PAW, set to FLARM OUT with a baud rate of 57600.
Next steps are to check the ground connection and maybe try swapping the TX/RX wires over.
I would have posted photos but my attempts have failed!
Thanks
Steve
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Hi Steve
If you have used a 9 pin D sub to connect the RS232 to the Skyview you should have the orange wire (TX) in the cable from the PAW to pin 3 and the black to pin 5 if using a male half of the connector. The female should have pin 3 (RX) routed to pin 7 on your Skyview 37 pin connector and pin 5 to ground. Same principle if you have just soldered the connections.
I assume that on your Skyview you are currently getting "Traffic Fail" as a message. Once this is working you should get “Flarn Ok” and you should see your RS232 device on one of the USB lines on the PAW configuration page.
Hope that helps.
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Hi All,
A bit of clarification.
The RS232 cable (and other connected devices) will appear in the USB devices list at the bottom of the Home Screen, but in no particular order.
The USB Ports on the PAW Classic and Rosetta are numbered.....
Ethernet Port 1 Port 3
Ethernet Port 2 Port 4
So be careful to configure the correct port in the Configure Screen.
IME, this is the cause of most configuration errors with external devices.
Also be careful when buying cables advertised as FTDI on internet sites - there are a lot of fakes out there. I normally buy from RS (dearer but next day delivery) or Farnell (cheaper but postage is extra).
Let us know when you get it working.
Regards
Peter
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Thanks all, will have another go at it tomorrow!
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Mutley, You can get an idea if data is flowing between PAW and Skyview from the Serial Port configuration page (SETUP MENU > SYSTEM SETUP >SERIAL PORT SETUP), if you look at the TX & RX & Error Counters . You can also take a screenshot to a USB stick at any time by pressing buttons 2 & 7 simultaneously (Page 21,2 of the Installation Manual explains this and how to download various error logs), which can be useful in debugging the system
I have attached a screenshot from one of my tests when I was troubleshooting my installation, that showed a problem. I have also attached a copy of my D37 Connector cabling, showing the wiring connections I was using for Serial Port 2. I'll take a screenshot of my working configuration when I am next at the airport.
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Swapped the Tx and Rx wires over, all working now!
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Swapped the Tx and Rx wires over, all working now!
Sorry, that’s the other common fault - I should have added that to my earlier post.
Regards
Peter
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Glad you got it sorted Mutley.
For the avoidance of doubt, I have attached the screenshot I took yesterday of my working system, showing what the serial port on the Skyview should report, i e. Traffic on RX, none on TX.
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Is possible to set the serial port to output as well so that it sends GPS data from the Dynon Skyview to the PAW?
That way one wouldn't need to install a second GPS.
(The Garmin GTR225 connects to the Skyview and gets GPS data (in NMEA format) from it so it could be possible).
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Is possible to set the serial port to output as well so that it sends GPS data from the Dynon Skyview to the PAW?
That way one wouldn't need to install a second GPS.
(The Garmin GTR225 connects to the Skyview and gets GPS data (in NMEA format) from it so it could be possible).
See the 6th post down from Russp in this thread, I think it explains what you are looking for.
http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,1765.msg23431.html#msg23431
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Is it possible to hard-wire connect PAW Rosetta to Dynon HDX (as described here) AND to at the same time connect the same Rosetta unit to SkyDemon via Wi-Fi?
Or are the PAW settings mutually exclusive.
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That is possible. The PAW to HDX uses a USB to serial cable and communicates via RS232. The WIFI on the Rosetta still works in the same way, so you can connect to your tablet as usual.
I haven't connected mine yet (doing a panel upgrade to HDX) but the only thing I am considering is adjusting the traffic viewing/warning parameters. At the moment I have PAW wide open and then restrict them in SkyDemon. I THINK this would mean you'd see everything on the HDX, so the filters need to be applied at the PAW in the first place. I believe the SkyDemon intelligent voice will still work for the iPad but the HDX will just announce 'Traffic' for all the stuff it sees. Hopefully there will be an option to turn off the HDX traffic voice only.
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Thanks Paul, I am doing the same (HDX upgrade). Thanks for your advice. I asked because in the OP is says:
> Configure the USB port on the Pilot Aware to output FLARM traffic and set it to 57600 baud.
I was wondering whether this wouldn't conflict with the settings required to supply to SkyDemon. So thanks for your confirmation that this is not the case.
From my reading I confirm all your other remarks regarding filtering on PAW, and your understanding of HDX' traffic treatment.
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If you want more information on the PAW/SkyView subject then have a search in the Technical section. Lots there, including: http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,823.0.html (http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,823.0.html)
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Thanks Paul, I am doing the same (HDX upgrade). Thanks for your advice. I asked because in the OP is says:
> Configure the USB port on the Pilot Aware to output FLARM traffic and set it to 57600 baud.
I was wondering whether this wouldn't conflict with the settings required to supply to SkyDemon. So thanks for your confirmation that this is not the case.
From my reading I confirm all your other remarks regarding filtering on PAW, and your understanding of HDX' traffic treatment.
Hi Tim,
Sorry, I have been a bit preoccupied over the past few days and haven't been on the Forum, however @PaulSS has obviously been right on the ball (as usual - thanks Paul) and dealt with your enquiry.
The OP's advice re configuring the PAW Output for SkyView is correct. Make sure you have identified the correct PAW USB Port then configure it in PAW to 'Flarm Out and 57600 Baud'. Transmissions via the PAW WiFi Hotspot work completely independently, so the USB Port settings won't affect data sent via the PAW WiFi. That just works as normal.
Please let us know how you get on with your upgrade to HDX.
Best Regards
Peter