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British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Richard on August 06, 2015, 12:03:21 am

Title: Setup
Post by: Richard on August 06, 2015, 12:03:21 am
Hi All,
     I have just finished building the hardware... after plugging into the TV I get just a flashing color screen, and nothing ells. ( SD Card Installed)

On the Hardware... the PI lights up OK but should the Digole also light up on first power or does it not light up until the software in full installed? As I have no lights on the Digole.

Also I have the 1GB PI Is anyone using this successfully or should I have got the PI B+ the earlier version?

Thank You in advance.
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 06, 2015, 07:47:55 am
Hi All,
     I have just finished building the hardware... after plugging into the TV I get just a flashing color screen, and nothing ells. ( SD Card Installed)

On the Hardware... the PI lights up OK but should the Digole also light up on first power or does it not light up until the software in full installed? As I have no lights on the Digole.

Also I have the 1GB PI Is anyone using this successfully or should I have got the PI B+ the earlier version?

Thank You in advance.

Hi Richard
Sorry to say this is incompatible as it stand, there is an article here :-
http://thepihut.com/blogs/raspberry-pi-tutorials/16982376-updating-raspbian-on-your-microsd-for-the-raspberry-pi-2

Looks like there would be some porting work to support the pi2

ADDENDUM:

I could take a look at applying the patches and building an EXPERIMENTAL disk image if you want to try that ?
The problem is that I do not have access to a PI 2 to verify this myself.

Probably be a few days before I could get to doing this work

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Richard on August 06, 2015, 10:40:35 am
Lee,
    Thank you for your reply. I have ordered the B+

I can send you the PI 2 for you to work on if you like... It will only sit here doing nothing.... If you get it working OK I could Pay for the remaining parts for you to complete it.  Can you send me you Address as where to post.

ThX Richard
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 06, 2015, 06:39:46 pm
Lee,
    Thank you for your reply. I have ordered the B+

I can send you the PI 2 for you to work on if you like... It will only sit here doing nothing.... If you get it working OK I could Pay for the remaining parts for you to complete it.  Can you send me you Address as where to post.

ThX Richard

Sent email
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Richard on August 08, 2015, 07:55:14 pm
Lee,
 Thank You. I will pop it in the post on Monday. 

OK The Pi arrived today I have the same problem. I can not get it to boot. (I have the Image file unpacked and in the root of the SD card) All i get is a flashing color screen on the TV with no options to install the OS. Same thing on different TV's.
   The Pi also came with a copy of its own OS and also does the same thing. I Have tried with no hardware connected too, but just the same. Can any one help!!!

HOOOOOOOOOOO!!!  OK Its booted. I have used a mobile phone charger And all is Good.    It was the USB power cable. I will leave the above comment incase some ells has the same problem 


Richard
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 08, 2015, 09:02:47 pm
I was just about to post that it is a power issue.
I suggest you try the pi2, another user reported installation was successful on pi2, although not yet run the software

Have you given me your wifi dongle mac address for the license code ?
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Richard on August 08, 2015, 10:29:38 pm
Lee,
     I have just Emailed the MAC to you

I will try the Pi2

Richard
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Richard on August 13, 2015, 06:31:54 pm
Lee,
    I'm Still having problems !!!!  It is looking more like a compatibility or something....

OK I can get the IPad to see the PilotWare  ( the Unit you have put together for me. Thank you for this) I Know it works because you have tested it. It keeps dropping out before I've even got it sorted with in Sky demon.  Sometimes the WIFI lights are on And sometimes they don't come on at all unless I restart the unit. Some times the Ipad will see it and sometime it will not. That is as far as I can get with it. If I plug the DV Receiver back it I cant get the WiFi to even light up and nothing can see it If Removed The PC and Ipad can see it. but drops out. I was wondering if it could be a power supply fault too. I'm awaiting a better cable but not yet arrived.

Do you also have any Ideas?

Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 13, 2015, 07:26:32 pm
Lee,
    I'm Still having problems !!!!  It is looking more like a compatibility or something....

OK I can get the IPad to see the PilotWare  ( the Unit you have put together for me. Thank you for this) I Know it works because you have tested it. It keeps dropping out before I've even got it sorted with in Sky demon.  Sometimes the WIFI lights are on And sometimes they don't come on at all unless I restart the unit. Some times the Ipad will see it and sometime it will not. That is as far as I can get with it. If I plug the DV Receiver back it I cant get the WiFi to even light up and nothing can see it If Removed The PC and Ipad can see it. but drops out. I was wondering if it could be a power supply fault too. I'm awaiting a better cable but not yet arrived.

Do you also have any Ideas?

Hi Richard
Yup, power, power, power.

Is this the one you sent to me which I had working ?

Can you tell me your configuration ?
What is the power source ?
What is the usb cable, how long is it, does it have an AWG rating ?
Post some pics
I have seen massive differences due to power source and usb cable

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: peastlake on August 13, 2015, 09:18:50 pm
This is probably going to sound dumb, but I've assumed that the DTV receiver dongle has to have its supplied antenna attached. It's not shown on the "finished" pictures in the build manual, but I'm guessing it's needed?
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Richard on August 13, 2015, 09:38:51 pm
Lee,
   You are Correct. All working now. I managed to find another USB power cable and tried that (Its a Old Galaxy Phone USB) and hay!!! presto!!! all fired into action.
   You are on the ball with the Power Cable and Power supply. I gave myself a good slap for not trying it (earlier. (Sorry to be a pain)

Thank you for all your help.

Richard
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 13, 2015, 09:58:23 pm
Lee,
   You are Correct. All working now. I managed to find another USB power cable and tried that (Its a Old Galaxy Phone USB) and hay!!! presto!!! all fired into action.
   You are on the ball with the Power Cable and Power supply. I gave myself a good slap for not trying it (earlier. (Sorry to be a pain)

Thank you for all your help.

Richard

Hi Richard
I can tell you I am breathing a sigh of relief, but it is clear the quality of supply is critical.
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 13, 2015, 10:00:17 pm
This is probably going to sound dumb, but I've assumed that the DTV receiver dongle has to have its supplied antenna attached. It's not shown on the "finished" pictures in the build manual, but I'm guessing it's needed?

Hi Paul
Yes you are right, I should update the pics, this could be confusing
I dont think you would get any traffic without the antenna.

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: BobD on August 18, 2015, 04:47:44 pm
Hi Lee,

I have ordered all the parts, and they have started arriving, so I hope to start the Hardware Build in the next few days.

IN the Hardware section of the Documentation, you state :

"By default the board will provide 5V to the ARF
THIS WILL DESTROY THE ARF
in order to make it 3.3v you MUST remove the JMP connector
Circuit diagram attached."

There is no circuit diagram apart from that in the Documentation.

Excuse my ignorance, but is this as simple as cutting the thread that leads from  JMP to the square hole above the words PWR ?
I have looked at the unit under a magnifying glass, and the two halves of the JMP do not appear to be connected ?

I am going to build two units, but have only been able to source one regulator board from the UK, I am waiting for the second to arrive from China, so I don't want to destroy the only one I have !

TIA

BobD

Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Aerial on August 18, 2015, 07:17:10 pm
Hi Richard, like you I am also collecting parts. My regulator boards came with nothing bridging the space between the square pads where the letters JMP are.

Closely examining this area, I saw nothing connected on them and there were traces of a component having been removed from the pads. I  haven't run the boards up yet but fully expect there to be 3.3V on the output as they were delivered, as we require. There is no need to cut the tracks to the pads. I'm sure that I have seen a close-up picture of this area but can't find it anywhere now, sorry. Hopefully, Lee will be along soon to explain more fully.
I hope that helps.
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: carstenpa28 on August 18, 2015, 07:17:53 pm
Hi Lee,

the same problem.
With the jumper closed, the power on the regulator board lights red, with the jumper open
no power light.
 I don't want to destroy the only ARF I have


Thx
Carsten
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 18, 2015, 07:57:21 pm
Hi All,
sorry just seen these messages, I did not have notify on this topic - duh

OK, the 3.3v regulator should look like this
http://digole.com/index.php?productID=438
Note the regulator chip where the board is marked U2

is should NOT look like this which is the 5v board
http://digole.com/index.php?productID=439
notice there is no regulator, and there is a tiny connection
in the top left hand corner labeled JMP

WARNING: in June a number of boards were manufactured
with the 3.3v regulator AND the JMP link in place, this is
a FAULT.
If the JMP link is in place, you must remove this, simply slide
a hot soldering iron across and it will come away.

digole.com assured me they contacted everybody with the faulty
consignment, but they did not contact me, hence 10 ARF are now
toasted.

Any confusion please email me or post again

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: BobD on August 18, 2015, 11:10:54 pm
Hi Lee,

I have attached a photo of my Regulator, which looks like productID=439. I am guessing that your explanation mean I cannot use this, and need it to be returned and replace with productID=438 ?

BobD
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: Admin on August 18, 2015, 11:22:42 pm
Hi Lee,

I have attached a photo of my Regulator, which looks like productID=439. I am guessing that your explanation mean I cannot use this, and need it to be returned and replace with productID=438 ?

BobD

Hi Bob
Good catch, this is the 5v version, this would hade destroyed your ARF.
I have a supply of the 3.3v boards if you want one quickly ?
Send me an email
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: BobD on August 19, 2015, 01:37:12 am
Thanks Lee, e-mail sent

BobD
Title: Re: Setup
Post by: BobD on August 23, 2015, 06:34:20 pm
As I only have access to Skydemon running on Android at the moment (se Setting up the Software Thread), I cannot fully test if the individual hardware components are working correctly. I can see the Pi is OK, as I can follow the boot up sequence via a monitor, and the lights on the ARF flash, but it would be helpful if there were some definitive testing I could carry out on the individual components, to ensure they are assembled and operating correctly.

I am much more familiar with software than hardware, especially in this field, so tend to follow the idiot guide to assembly. Any tips of how I can validate the individual components via software would be useful.

TIA

BobD