PilotAware
British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Mig29fuk on July 30, 2015, 07:15:25 am
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Hi to all on this List.
Well the Pi 2 is up and running, just waiting for all the bits to wing their way from China!
Thank you Lee for getting this great idea up and running.
Will update as things come together with probably some requests for help.
If anybody is flying West and wants a tea break then call me on 07808 402404 and that will be PPR to land at my Strip.
520M X 30M at 24/06. It's on SkyDemon as White Ox Mead.
Regards
Gerry
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Hi Gerry,
I just got my software loaded and I think the device is working. Managed to get a couple of ADS-B targets on Skydemon whilst standing in the garden. This being the only device within miles there's no chance of seeing any other pilotaware transmissions.
I need to build some more devices for friends now and we can really see how it works.
Regards,
Colin
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Colin Great News!
I'm very hopeful that PilotAware will provide an opportunity at a sensible price for as many aircraft as possible to be equipped.
The FLARM solution is expensive and seems Glidercentric.
Tim who is also on this Forum and based at White Ox Mead with me is building too and I'm sure we can convince the other two tenants to subscribe.
Regards
Gerry
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Mr Holland how are you?
Vince
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Very well Thank You Vince!
Hope all well with you.
The old Corben is flying well now and off and about.
After two months the CAA managed to sort out an LAPL from my 1068 CAA PPL.
English Language Proficiency Level 6 caused the problem! I know I'm from the West Country but my claim to speak English is far better than many here now!
Fly over when you can. Another two or three weeks and I'll be spotting you on SkyDemon!
Regards
Gerry
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Hi
I got my pilot aware up and running last week with some help from Lee :) , this looks like such a great project, I've not had a chance to use it in anger yet as I'm out of the country now until the start of sept. I fly from Barton so if anyone else has built one around here let me know and we can give them a try out in the air 8)
Regards
Andy
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So at the moment it's working (at least in the spare room!), and I'm picking up ADS-B traffic. In SkyDemon, when you touch the symbol for another aircraft, you get an "Information- Aircraft" choice. Touching that, it shows you that aircraft's altitude, track & groundspeed. It DID show it's ICAO hex ID, but not this evening. Any ideas why? The only thing that's different is that I've installed the radio module - is that it?
Not that this function is going to be practical in flight, but it's nice to know why things work the way they do.
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I think skydemon have changed it in the latest version, there might be security issues, I have asked the question here:
http://forums.skydemon.aero/Topic16729.aspx
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For testing purposes, is there anything stopping TWO I-devices being connected to the PilotAware at once?
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For testing purposes, is there anything stopping TWO I-devices being connected to the PilotAware at once?
Not sure i understand the question ?
Do you mean one ipad running collisionaware, and another running skydemon
This is possible
Thx
Lee
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Not sure i understand the question ?
Do you mean one ipad running collisionaware, and another running skydemon
This is possible
I was going to have two iPads, both connected to the one PilotAware by both running CollisionAware, and both plotting traffic on SkyDemon. Then see if one will fail, but the other continue to run. I think my SkyDemon Licence allows me to run it on two mobile devices?
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I have most of the bits for my Pilot Aware BUT I bought a PowerPOD for the ARF instead of the Xbee as the wireless thing website recommended it.
I can not find the pin outs for the ARF so am now stuck. Can anyone help or do I need to buy a Xbee board.
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I have most of the bits for my Pilot Aware BUT I bought a PowerPOD for the ARF instead of the Xbee as the wireless thing website recommended it.
I can not find the pin outs for the ARF so am now stuck. Can anyone help or do I need to buy a Xbee board.
Hi Kevin
http://openmicros.org/index.php/articles/84-xrf-basics/263-arf-user-guide
this says
Pin usage
The ARF is pinned much the same as an XRF v2.0 however pins 15 and 18 should be left unconnected. These pins are used by the SRF to control the CC1190
Pin 14 should also be left unconnected or connected to +3V3.
XRF pinout is
http://openmicros.org/index.php/articles/87-llap-lightweight-local-automation-protocol/llap-devices-commands-and-instructions/190-llap-device-xrf-pinout
Thx
Lee
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My device is up & running for ADS-B now. From my office I can pick up signals inside a radius of approximately 35 NM.
The ARF is not running yet. I used the wirelessthings PowerPod instead of the XBee (see attachement).
Can anybody help me with the pinout? From the link postet above, I can not tell from which side you look at the board to locate Pin1. If I look at the side of the board where the SRF-Board and antenna connector are placed, is Pin 1 on the left or right side of the antenna connector?
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I just decided to take a chance on the ARF-board and soldered the wires to the other side - and it works ;)
So if you look at the side with the antenna connector, Pin 1 is left of the connector. ;D
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I just decided to take a chance on the ARF-board and soldered the wires to the other side - and it works ;)
So if you look at the side with the antenna connector, Pin 1 is left of the connector. ;D
Hi Seb
Excellent, well done in getting another device working.
You fixed it before I managed to make a posting.
Are you near to Markus Krauss ?
Thx
Lee
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Where is he located? My Homebase is EDXG, about 80 km west of Hannover.
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Where is he located? My Homebase is EDXG, about 80 km west of Hannover.
user name is mjkrauss
Thx
Lee
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I just decided to take a chance on the ARF-board and soldered the wires to the other side - and it works ;)
So if you look at the side with the antenna connector, Pin 1 is left of the connector. ;D
Hi Onkelmuetze,
I have had problems trying to source the correct Xbee Adapter, so have purchased the same powerpod as you. If I read the above post correctly, and looking at the jpeg you provided in the previous post, after swapping the wires around, could you please confirm the correct pinouts are as follows:
ARF POD IDC
VIN --------------------- 2 (PWR)
10 ------------------- GND -------------------- 6 (GND)
1 -------------------- VOUT
3 ---------------------------------------------- 8 (TXD)
2 ---------------------------------------------- 10 (RXD)
From your photo (copy attached) it appears that pin GND on the pod takes inut from the IDC, and provides output to pin 10 on the ARF, via two wires soldered together, but I just can't quite make this out from the photo.
Forgive my ignorance on this, but I am following the 'painting by numbers' method for hardware assembly, and am wary of making expensive mistakes.
BobD
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Hi Bob,
your pinout is correct!
GND on the PowerPod is used for GND from the IDC and the ARF. Just make sure you solder all the wires to the correct side of the ARF, my picture in the previous post shows my first try, which was the wrong side. It did not kill the ARF though, so if you get it wrong, you should still have a second chance ;)
Seb
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Hi Seb,
Are there any visual indications (i.e. lights), that the unit is working, after soldering and prior to assembly, such as those given with the Digole Regulator ? If not, is there any software indication available to prove the item ?
Best Regards
BobD
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Are there any visual indications (i.e. lights), that the unit is working, after soldering and prior to assembly, such as those given with the Digole Regulator ? If not, is there any software indication available to prove the item ?
If you have used the Digole 3.3v regulator, you should see a blue flashing LED.
This is the 'heartbeat' output of the ARF
Thx
Lee
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Hi Lee,
I am still waiting for a Digole Regulator to arrive from China for my second unit build, so I have tried the PowerPod that Seb has used on his unit. However, unlike the Digole, I can't see a 'heartbeat' indicator (unless I am missing it), so I wondered if there is another way to test the unit before assembly. I can see the heartbeat on the Digole you sent me, so am fairly confident that the original unit is working. I want to complete the second unit, before I visit a friend with an Ipad for final testing.
Regards
BobD
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Hi Bob,
Sorry, now I understand.
If you have a monitor connected to the RPi as it boots, you should see some messages appear regarding
programming up the ARF, this of course depends when you took the copy of PilotAware.zip, because this was only introduced
recently
I am slowly trying to build in diagnostics for this kind of information
If messages appear, then the ARF is probably working correctly
Thx
Lee
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Hi Lee,
Thanks for the info, the ARF messages do appear on booting, so I guess my hamfisted soldering has worked after all :)
My download of the zip file was from 20/08, so I guess it is the latest release.
As I requested in a previous post, these software diagnostic messages are really useful for those like me with limited electronic testing experience. I only yesterday bought a Multimeter, but have only used if for connectivity testing so far.
So now I have two units ready for testing, but no Apple product to use yet :( That should be rectified later this week when I pass on one unit to a friend with an Ipad.
Roll on the Android version of PilotAware !
Best Regards
BobD
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Roll on the Android version of PilotAware !
Seconded!
Not that I'm complaining, Lee!
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Hi Seb,
Are there any visual indications (i.e. lights), that the unit is working, after soldering and prior to assembly, such as those given with the Digole Regulator ? If not, is there any software indication available to prove the item ?
Sorry for my late answer, I was on holidays - there are no light indicators if you use the PowerPod from wirelessthings, but if you have a look at the pinout of the ARF-board, you will find a pin called "heartbeat" or "H-BEAT". You just need to put a LED with sufficient resisitor between the heartbeat-pin and GND.
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@BobD and @Onkelmeutze,
Think I'm going the same route as you guys with mine, all the bits have pretty much arrived. Was wondering, how did you secure the ARF board and PowerPOD to the RPi casing? Are you putting anything between them and the main RPi board?
I'm a bit of a novice at this and likely to create an expensive mistake!!
Cheers!
Steve.
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Hi Stephen,
I simply bought a cheap hot glue gun, and glued both individual parts to the top of the case, positioning them so that neither would foul anything on the main board (see attached photo).
BobD
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Thanks for this pic Bob - exactly what I'm going to do when the bits arrive 8)
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I used padded double side tape
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That's what I was thinking as well...
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Hello,
Just a note to say thanks to Lee for the hard work and time you've put into this!
Mine is up and running today with latest release 20150911 , pics attached, hopefully I'll get chance to test it in the air tomorrow
Cheers
Ben
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We'll some dodgy first time soldering later and I appear to be up and running off a battery pack. I'm north bristol in my study picking up CAT at 40k passing Hereford and Shobdon. No idea if the P3I is working. Anyone in the Bristol area I can test with on the ground?
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Yep I'm North Bristol. :)
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Latest iteration of my build to make it more mechanically robust...
Next stage is to strip the DVB Rx down, remove the USB plug and hard-wire directly into the RPi inside the box. Only downside is the heat the thing runs at which may cook the RPi.