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Title: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on December 31, 2016, 03:27:19 pm
Hi

Have just tried to upgrade to an RPI 2 and have only been getting the "Rainbow" screen when I turn the device on. The RED power light is on and the Green light flashes (5 slow and then ? 5 fast flashes). I followed the PAW install instructions to the letter and tried several times with the same result.

The mini SD card worked fine (SanDisk Ultra 8gb) on my old RPI and works fine when I copied a Raspbian img file to the card. This booted Raspian without problems. This means (I think) the there is nothing wrong with the RPI 2 and that the RPI 2 SD card reader works. Would it be possible for me to load PAW manually?

Or is there something else I could try?

Best regards

Chris
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Admin on December 31, 2016, 03:59:59 pm
Hi Chris

RPI-2 V1.1 or V1.2 ?
I suspect this is V1.2, which is actually a totally different beast, and closer to an RPI-3
(using the same CPU as an RPI-3)
We have a solution for this, but it is not yet published

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 01, 2017, 09:53:30 am
It is a RPI 2 Model B model number 100437.
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: exfirepro on January 01, 2017, 10:27:46 am
Chris,

Sorry, can't tell from the model number, but if you look on the pcb itself, it will tell you after the Raspberry Pi2B bit whether it is a version 1.1 or version 1.2 board. Newer Pi2Bs from non-PilotAware sources seem to be version 1.2 boards, which use a different architecture and won't run PilotAware as it currently exists.

Lee has done a considerable amount of work rewriting the software to deal with this, but as he indicated above this software version has not been released yet, though I would expect this to happen fairly soon.

Regards

Peter
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 01, 2017, 11:19:20 am
Have checked the hardware.It is a model 1.2. Using CPUINFO I saw that the revision number is a22042, confirming that it is V1.2

I had no idea that there were two versions of RPI 2 and there is no indication that it is model 1.2 on the Amazon site from which I ordered it...

I would be happy to help with any testing of the new version....
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Admin on January 01, 2017, 01:15:01 pm
I would be happy to help with any testing of the new version....

Email sent
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 01, 2017, 04:33:49 pm
Email received thanks. Have successfully installed the software as far as I can tell.

My HOSTID has changed, so no further progress possible until I receive a new software key. I have already requested a new key and sent a copy of the email with my previous software key with the request.

Rgds

Chris
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 04, 2017, 01:47:32 pm
Hi

Realised that I could get a demo software key using my work email address, which I confess I have done!

Attached are screen shots:

(a) HOME: showing Model B Pi 2, (which is a v1.2). I do not have the 3PI radio, which is why I have a TRX RED flag. I set the pressure altitude manually, hence the RED flag there.

(b) CONFIGURE: the page does not show any of the options available on the Pi2B version. Is this because I do not have the 3PI radio?

Kind regards

Chris
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: exfirepro on January 04, 2017, 04:11:02 pm
Hi Chris,

Yes, some of the functions only become live once the P3i bridge is fitted as this has the baro module etc. on board.

Peter
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: AllanBirt on January 04, 2017, 10:40:26 pm
Hi Lee

Are you able to give us an idea when this newer software will be released as I have one of those newer raspberry Pi 2 v1.2. and if it's fully functional I could also test if required.

Kind regards

Allan
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 05, 2017, 12:35:58 am
Hi

Does the mode-c functionality need the bridge?

Kind regards

Chris
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Keithvinning on January 05, 2017, 09:36:54 am
Quote
Does the mode-c functionality need the bridge?

Yes

Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 05, 2017, 09:49:55 am
I have ordered a Bridge...
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: exfirepro on January 05, 2017, 10:34:33 am
You won't regret it Chris.

Opens up a whole new world.... including Mode C/S and the audio alerts.

Regards

Peter
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Admin on January 05, 2017, 11:41:57 am
Hi Lee

Are you able to give us an idea when this newer software will be released as I have one of those newer raspberry Pi 2 v1.2. and if it's fully functional I could also test if required.

Kind regards

Allan

Hi Allan
Travelling at the moment, please drop me a line next week.

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Dermot Richardson on January 08, 2017, 10:25:04 am
I appear to have fallen into the same trap - or worse!

As Pilot Aware Hardware had no stock of the Classic, I ordered a bridge and the Pi2B from Amazon.

Amazon parcel arrived this morning (Sunday) containing a Pi3!

Is the software for the Pi3 going to be available soon or should I send it back and demand the Pi2B which I ordered?

We are evaluating the PAW system for fitting in our (6) aircraft. One of our members, Chris Mills, has kindly lent me a pair of Pi1 based systems to get started with.  Our prime objective is more to track our fellow pilots on fly-outs than find conflicting traffic though that will be much appreciated too.

I am experimenting with all the obvious aerials as the relatively low power of the system suggests that this is the most promising improvement area for more consistent results. Counter-intuitively, using one of Chris's units (like a Classic with standard aerial) in the cockpit has so far given more reliable results in my metal Bonanza than our wooden Robins.....

Hopefully more aerial trials today.
Dermot Richardson, Robin Flying Group
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 08, 2017, 09:53:52 pm
I have installed the bridge and as far as I can tell, the software in working. I have not had a chance to test it outside of the Heathrow TMA, so have not yet seen any mode c or s aircraft.

I am still using a demo software key and would appreciate a on-demo key...

Best regards


Chris
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: exfirepro on January 08, 2017, 11:25:01 pm
Chris,

Remember you have to select the appropriate setting for Mode C/S in the 'Mode C/S Select' option in the 'Configure' screen - it is off by default. If you have any type of transponder, you need to select 'Mode C/S +Filter(Beta) if you want to see both mode C and Mode S.

Regards

Peter
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 09, 2017, 04:47:14 pm
Many thanks - we have a mode S transponder - will set 'Mode C/S +Filter(Beta)
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: exfirepro on January 09, 2017, 05:38:47 pm
I am still using a demo software key and would appreciate a non-demo key...

Best regards

Chris

Chris,

Sorry, I missed the bit about the temporary software key in your earlier post. Your bridge includes a first year software licence, which you should be able to retrieve via the Licensing and Downloads Section from the Forum Home Page.

Regards

Peter
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: schweboo on January 09, 2017, 06:21:55 pm
Peter

I tried that, but it did not work. I suspect that the system blocked me as I had previously been issued with a software key before I got the Bridge.

Best regards

Chris Frost
schweboo@yahoo.com
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: exfirepro on January 09, 2017, 10:26:34 pm
Chris,

In that case your software key should still continue to work as long as you are still using the same Pi motherboard. At worst, you should just need to reinsert the previous licence key.

As Lee supplied you with the test software, I suggest you drop him an e-mail with your Pi MAC Address and the Number from the sticker on your new bridge if there is a problem and he will then be able to update your licence for you.

Regards

Peter

Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: exfirepro on January 09, 2017, 10:48:12 pm
I appear to have fallen into the same trap - or worse!

As Pilot Aware Hardware had no stock of the Classic, I ordered a bridge and the Pi2B from Amazon.

Amazon parcel arrived this morning (Sunday) containing a Pi3!

Is the software for the Pi3 going to be available soon or should I send it back and demand the Pi2B which I ordered?

We are evaluating the PAW system for fitting in our (6) aircraft. One of our members, Chris Mills, has kindly lent me a pair of Pi1 based systems to get started with.  Our prime objective is more to track our fellow pilots on fly-outs than find conflicting traffic though that will be much appreciated too.

I am experimenting with all the obvious aerials as the relatively low power of the system suggests that this is the most promising improvement area for more consistent results. Counter-intuitively, using one of Chris's units (like a Classic with standard aerial) in the cockpit has so far given more reliable results in my metal Bonanza than our wooden Robins.....

Hopefully more aerial trials today.
Dermot Richardson, Robin Flying Group

Hi Dermot,

Your post hasn't been overlooked, but Lee has been away and as the one who does all the software development, he is best placed to provide a definitive answer to your main question.

For my part all I can say is that since we became aware that 'Pi' had changed the Pi2B to a version 1.2 board on which PilotAware wouldn't run, Lee has spent a considerable amount of time restructuring the PAW software to run on the newer version 1.2 Pi2 B+ board. The Pi3, however, although it has several similarities to the 'new' 2B+ is still a significantly different beast and I am not aware of any plans to support PilotAware operation on Pi3 in the immediate future.

Hope this helps with your decision

Regards

Peter

Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Admin on January 09, 2017, 11:37:33 pm
Hi Dermot

Sorry for the late reply
I suggest returning and obtaining a pi2b

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: grvbc on January 20, 2017, 06:58:03 pm
I too seem to have a v1.2 RPi2 with the installation stuck on the rainbow screen, if I use the pilotaware download.

Is there a simple way around the problem? I can get a basic noobs/raspian install going fine.
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Admin on January 20, 2017, 08:13:48 pm
Hi grvbc
I will send a link to a download for the v1.2.
We still need to formally release this version

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: grvbc on January 21, 2017, 03:45:20 pm
That would be brilliant ... Thanks Lee.  Well done.

Tim
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: mo0g on February 02, 2017, 11:13:58 am
Hi all,

I have started buying the components for a self build, received my Pi 2 this morning, from the link in the known good hardware, and it is also a v1.2

Has the software already been updated, or will I need the new unreleased software?  I am waiting for the bridge to come back into stock so there is no immediate hurry, but thought I would let you know that your recommended supplier is sending v1.2s now!

Thanks
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: mo0g on February 22, 2017, 11:42:48 am
Ok, I received the last component for my self build this morning, havent connected the device to a monitor yet but I'm not seeing a wifi hotspot.

I was about to troubleshoot further when I remembered I have the v1.2 pi, and the s/w version downloaded was 20161201, so could I please have the v1.2 software sent to me (or a link to d/l it)?

Thanks

Mark
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: mo0g on February 22, 2017, 11:49:54 am
Just seen the latest version is 23Dec so I am downloading that to try, but I believe this still wont work with v1.2
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: Admin on February 22, 2017, 11:59:35 am
Just seen the latest version is 23Dec so I am downloading that to try, but I believe this still wont work with v1.2

Email sent containing link

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: RPI 2 and rainbow screen
Post by: mo0g on February 22, 2017, 12:29:38 pm
Got it, thanks.

The 23dec version enabled the hotspot but I never got any further so Im using the 1.2 version now.