PilotAware
British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: Richard on November 11, 2015, 07:21:41 pm
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I have been having problems Formatting the SD cards with SD Formatter V4 using windows 10. It appears to not be supported, The SD Format seems to work OK but after installing the Zip file of PilotAware onto the SD card and after installing the card to the Raspberry PI B+ It seems to crash on the first boot and install. I have not had a problem with Windows XP works OK
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Did you definitely format with "FULL (Overwrite)" not FULL (Erase) or other options and with the resize option ON ?
It's critical to use those settings. If the formatted ran OK I'd be surprised if it was a Win 10 issue.
Also can you define "crash" ? If you have a monitor connected to the HDMI what do you see ?
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Hi Ian, Yes Tried it both ways....
Full Erase & Format Size ON... Comes up with a Error message " Format Fail Remove card and try again"
Full Overwrite & Format Size ON Takes longer and appears to work says " Format Complete"
It is when the PI installs on first boot, it fails. With the monitor it starts displaying the codeing and not the PilotAware Logo and the % bar., Some times it just Hangs with a blank screen.
I have updated the versions many times now on Windows, This only appears to be Windows 10.
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Very strange - sadly (or fortunately) I don't have Windows 10 to try here.
There might be other drive partitioning software you can try.
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Are you copying the zip file onto the card? Is that how it should be done? I've always gone into the zip file and copied and pasted all the files therein to the card.
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The correct way is to select the zip file and then press the extract option at the top of the window. Point to the SD card and extract. Once extracted copy the files to the root. Easy takes just seconds to do. The problem is that Windows 10 does not format the SD card correctly. There is another post by EricC who had the same problem.
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Re previous posts. Tried again, reloaded the formatter4. No success.
The micro sd card I used has been previously formatted with my samsung andriod tab.
l asume this may be the reason why.
I am to long in the tooth regarding computers so always asume I have screwed up.
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Screen pictures during format.
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I am a Windows 10 user, to date not had any problems.
I have successfully formatted and loaded 2 Kingston 8GB cards and 1 Sandisk 16GB card on a Dell with on board card reader/writer.
I'm sure I follow the instructions on Lee's 0.3 document...I may have taken shortcuts whilst doing so!
If requested, I will try the process tomorrow and document exactly how I do it, though I'm pretty sure I mostly follow the manual.
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Result of format.
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EricC, Yes This is the same results I'm experiencing. It did work OK once for me with no problems.
I just had a thought. Are we formatting under the Administration privileges on widows 10. Or are is it because we are signed into our own account on the windows 10?
I will try this latter today to see if it make a difference.
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Sorry not a clue. I am using a sd card formatted for me by a colleague
and working ok in my pilotaware unit, so no panic regarding update.
Thanks.
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You cannot run SD Formater without admin rights. If you account does not have admin rights you will be prompted for the admin password.
Just testing this myself as I have both Win7 and Win10 boxes
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Worked fine for me on a Win10 account without admin rights. I was prompted to use admin password to run the SDFormatter application.
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Ian the problem seems to be when you extract the Pilotaware files onto the formatted sd card and try to run a new setup on a pilotaware pi. Can you try this as though you were setting it up for the first time or a version updates using Windows 10. See if it installs on the pi.
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Hi Richard,
Are you extracting directly on to the SD Card?
If so, try extracting to a folder on your PC then copy the files across to the SD card.
Colin
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Thank you Colin, Yes I have tried all that. Same problem. It just seems to be window 10 that will not format the sd cards properly. I have tried the cards i'm ready using in the PI and also new Kingston results are always the same. I will have to get my laptop Graphics fixed.
There is another user of windows 10 having the same problem. I have looked at the supported operating systems for SD Formatter and there is no mention of windows 10. It must not be supported yet but some users it seemed to work ok for them. But the question to them is can you install PilotAware from a SD card formatted using SD Fromatter with windows 10 ?
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Re previous posts. Tried again, reloaded the formatter4. No success.
The micro sd card I used has been previously formatted with my samsung andriod tab.
l asume this may be the reason why.
I am to long in the tooth regarding computers so always asume I have screwed up.
ErricC, All,
Fixed It, Erric, If you right click on the shortcut for the SD Formater program on your Desktop, and select "Restore provisos versions" then under "Compatibility" you can select the operating system you want and use it to run the SD Formater, Windows 7 worked for me. Can you give it a go to see if it will fix yours too,
Thank You. All.
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Ian the problem seems to be when you extract the Pilotaware files onto the formatted sd card and try to run a new setup on a pilotaware pi. Can you try this as though you were setting it up for the first time or a version updates using Windows 10. See if it installs on the pi.
When I said it worked fine, I meant the whole process from formatting the card through to using the PAW.
I did not need to use compatibility modes
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No luck, "There are no previous versions available"
New laptop so guess that is why
Thanks for all you help.
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The only possible difference I can see is that my Win10 was an upgrade from Win 7, I assume EricC's was Win10 out of the box.
Have you tried cleaning the disk with Diskpart command before formatting?
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I think the key problem is the partitioning of the SD card rather than the formatting as such.
Am looking for free Windows partitioning software that works - if I find one I'll post a link here!
btw. If you have a Mac you can do all this with Disk Utility easily.