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Technical Support / Dead Rosetta - SD card slot has come adrift - Updated
« Last Post by grahambaker on March 30, 2024, 04:43:08 pm »
Some time ago I had some reliability issues with my 'powered by a Charge2' Rosetta, but these went away if I followed the mantra of pulling the USB port circuit breaker before engine shutdown, and not powering it up until after engine start. I was never really convinced that this really got to the bottom of the problem, but it's seemed to work for the last few months.

Out of the blue today the Rosetta just wouldn't work. USB or Anker battery, nada. All I'd get was three green flashes from the Bridge board, and a solid red light from the Pi, and nothing more. On the bench back at home I've found the problem, in that the outboard end of the SD card socket has come away from the Pi, leaving it hinged from the inboard end, so the poor bugger can't boot up and just sits there. I suspect a flakey SD socket connection has been the problem the whole while, and it's finally given up the ghost.

My soldering skills certainly aren't up to the job of reseating/replacing the SD card slot, so I'd welcome suggestions on options.

- can anyone replace the SD slot for me?
- has anyone a dead rosetta with a good Pi they'd sell me?
- is the right Pi still available to buy new?
- do PAW Towers offer a sensible trade in against an Fx?
- any other suggestions?

As an aside, I had to fly with a SkyEcho@ today in its place. My aircraft is certified ADSB out equippped so I was only using it in receive mode. Whilst it saw plenty of traffic, I remain convinced it's highly selective in what it does receive, as I flew above, behind, below and in front of a mate in another certified ADSB out equipped aircraft for two hours and it never saw him once, despite Vector showing his aircraft broadcasting loud and clear. I just can't bring myself to trust the SE2 the way I do the PAW.

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Technical Support / Re: FX data in and out - Skyview Compatible for both?
« Last Post by exfirepro on March 28, 2024, 08:46:11 pm »
Hi Guys,

For clarification - RJ11 and RJ12 are both 6-pole connectors, but the older RJ11 only uses 4 internal conductors (wires) whereas RJ12 uses 6 wires.

RJ45 is a similar type of connector but is 8-pole. The Data Input and Data Output sockets used in Rosetta FX are both 8-pole RJ45 type, though it should be noted that 6-pole RJ12 plugs will fit into the centre 6 poles of an RJ45 socket.

Standard Flarm protocol uses a 6-pole convention, with the connectors designated as: -

Pin 1. Power Input (Normally + 12 volts DC)
Pin 2. Power Output (3.3Volts DC - to power Flarm Displays)
Pin 3. Ground (for Flarm Displays)
Pin 4. (output) Data out RS232 – transmit line
Pin 5. (input) Data in RS232 – receive line
Pin 6. Ground (Supply Negative)

Pins are numbered from right to left, with the securing clip 'below' the plug - or at the bottom of the socket.

The change from 6-pole RJ12 to 8-pole RJ45 (at least as far as Flarm was concerned) simply resulted in the addition of 'duplicate' positive and negative supply options on the two 'new' outer pins 1 and 8 respectively, with the inner 6 'original' pins simply being renumbered, but remaining in exactly the same order as they always have been (unless someone can show me evidence to the contrary that they have changed again since). Note you can't rely on wiring colours in commercially available cables - you MUST check the wiring colours against the pins - at both ends of a cable!!!

Looking at my PowerMouse Manual for example (which is the most recent Flarm Device I own), it uses 8-pole RJ45 plugs and sockets with the same standard Flarm wiring convention.

Pin number / Description
      1          Power input +12 volts
      2          Power input +12 volts
      3          3.0V Indicator power output
      4          Ground
      5          Data output (TX)
      6          Data input (RX)
      7          Power input - negative
      8          Power input - negative

FX wiring is essentially the same. If it wasn't, my 'standard' setup with PowerMouse powering and supplying data (GPS and Flarm Traffic)  to FX, which in turn powers and provides direct through-put Flarm Traffic and Alert data to my LXNav FlarmLED display wouldn't work - (and it works perfectly).

The only departure I am aware of is that (unless it has changed in the production units) FX doesn't have 12 volt power on the Data Output port - so you can't power the Flarm Unit from the FX - though I will check this when I can get hold of the designers.

Regards

Peter
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Hi Martin,

As previously advised, perfectly OK to mount it on a small bracket as long as it is kept 'right side up'.

Just a minor point - are you aware that the GPS mouse contains a magnet - which of course won't stick to aluminium, but would mount perfectly onto a light steel bracket... (or you could of course use double-sided tape).

Best Regards

Peter
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Technical Support / Re: FX data in and out - Skyview Compatible for both?
« Last Post by PaulSS on March 27, 2024, 10:34:05 pm »
As I said, Russ, I did ask for clarification of the RJ12 wiring but have not yet got the definitive answer. I assumed it would be the Flarm wiring I supplied but I have found differences even to that recently. The wiring to the Flarm input of the LED+ indicator has changed in the last few months, which leads me to suspect that not all Flarm outputs are equal and, therefore, not all Flarm wiring diagrams are to be taken as read  :(

I think it's going to be a matter of trial and error but I'm not in a position right now to do so.
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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM With Rosetta in France
« Last Post by steveu on March 27, 2024, 08:01:08 pm »
Good evening
I fly in France and unfortunately there are very few ATOM stations, if any at all...
I think that the flarm signals are recovered via the OGN by the network of my GSM and transmitted by rs232 and wifi to the Dynon and aircrew screens.
In the last few days these signals have disappeared from the Rosetta, hence my question.

Rosetta doesn't use the OGN. Reasons are explained elsewhere. OGN derived FLARM signals aren't therefore a Rosetta issue.

There is a big issue with the OGN that until the stations are all manually updated, there will be a loss of functionality.

In order to receive FLARM via iGrid you'd need some way of injecting it into iGrid?

From the PAW site:

Latest Software Release : 20230316
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Technical Support / Re: Problem Receiving FLARM With Rosetta in France
« Last Post by DY691 on March 27, 2024, 06:24:22 pm »
Good evening
I fly in France and unfortunately there are very few ATOM stations, if any at all...
I think that the flarm signals are recovered via the OGN by the network of my GSM and transmitted by rs232 and wifi to the Dynon and aircrew screens.
In the last few days these signals have disappeared from the Rosetta, hence my question.
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Technical Support / Re: FX data in and out - Skyview Compatible for both?
« Last Post by russp on March 27, 2024, 03:45:32 pm »
So common ground wasn’t the problem. The Skyview still can’t see the Pilot Aware FX. I’ve wired the input and output cables from the FX as per the Farm diagram above and connected these to the same pins has used for the USB to RS232 cables that the Rosetta successfully was using.I’ve run out of ideas now and other than concluding that the FX unit is supplying incompatible data and is unable to receive the NMEA data in. I don’t know where to go?
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General Discussion / Re: Aircrew.co.uk and PilotAware Playback Sites
« Last Post by steveu on March 27, 2024, 12:04:42 pm »
Hi Steve, I had tried that site (and just tried again), but i couldn't get it to work with a PAW .trk file, it returns "No valid GPS Data detected", whichever output option is chosen.

Yes, I checked it out last night, and have emailed the developer.

It has worked with .trk files in the past as stored emails verified.

I'll keep you posted.
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General Discussion / Re: Aircrew.co.uk and PilotAware Playback Sites
« Last Post by BobD on March 27, 2024, 11:15:10 am »
Hi Steve, I had tried that site (and just tried again), but i couldn't get it to work with a PAW .trk file, it returns "No valid GPS Data detected", whichever output option is chosen.

Sadly https://playback.pilotaware.com/playback/ is still not getting past the upload phase, to display the track, on any of my devices......
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General Discussion / Re: Aircrew.co.uk and PilotAware Playback Sites
« Last Post by SGS66 on March 26, 2024, 09:05:36 pm »
I would not be surprised if FlySto is getting mode s traffic also, as the near miss I had two years ago was with an old PA28-140 and I’d be surprised if it was sporting ADSB. I have the reg and details from FlySto as all I uploaded was my old SkyDemon .kml file to check on the close encounter.
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