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Title: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 05, 2019, 03:41:44 pm
I need help.  Loaded the latest OGN update.
After two days trying no success.
I can log on, unable to enter the password.
Screen does not show as I type the password.
Eric C
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 05, 2019, 04:30:51 pm
Hi Eric

With Linux, the password does not show when you type, not even the asterix markers that you would see in windows.
Just type in your password exactly as you saved it, being mindful of capitalisation in the correct places, or if it is a full new version on a new card then the password will be 12345678 and you are advised to change this on the first run of the configuration file.  When you type it in you will not see anything happen until you hit enter.  If you got the password correct it will let you in, if not it will spit back at you and tell you it was "incorrect login"

This Linux is a huge learning curve for me too, not helped bu aged brain cells.

Regards
Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 05, 2019, 04:39:15 pm
Thanks a million for the info.
The previous upload worked fine using 192.168.1.4:4200

I think I an not connected to my router. The numbers above do not work.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 05, 2019, 04:47:07 pm
The last lines on the screen are.
Raspian GNU/Linux 9 raspberry pi tty1
raspbexrrypi login:   pi
Password:
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 05, 2019, 05:02:10 pm
Hi Eric

It's very possible that your router can change the IP address of your devices especially if you have turned off your router overnight or it has rebooted for any reason.  You should be able to go into your router settings and see a list of all of your connected devices and see what IP address has been allocated to your Raspberry Pi.
It may be possible to define the IP address for your Pi so that this does not happen if turned off or rebooted but depends on your provider and the specific router you use. 

Eric are you setting this up using a keyboard and monitor or using the "Shell in a Box" via your web browser?

Regards
Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: Seanhump on February 05, 2019, 05:19:47 pm
From the port number (4200) after the IP address it looks like he's using 'Shell in a box'

As has been mentioned, the address your router has assigned to your Pi has probably changed

If you can, log into your router and check the Devices page (difficult to describe exact name without more details on the router) and see if you can spot the Pi, either by it's name or is a list of MAC addresses is show, the one starting with B827 …..

There are a number of useful IP scanners you can get for free too - running one of these on your PC will list the devices is can find on your network (IP address, name, MAC address etc etc) -- handy if you're not sure where to look in your router..


Here's one I've used in the past ..  http://www.advanced-ip-scanner.com/index2.php?utm_expid=62919999-71.OuJ_66t8Q8SCz9BIvLvQ6g.1

Cheers
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: exfirepro on February 05, 2019, 06:49:12 pm
Hi guys,

I talked Eric through the setup over the phone last Wednesday. He is using a keyboard and monitor direct onto the Pi. 192.168.1.4:4200 let him into the pi, then we ran ./PilotAware-OGN.config.sh (with a couple of minor hiccups) resetting the password to ’stationname1’ (all lower case).


Eric,

If you have reloaded the software again you need to start again with

Login: pi
Password: 12345678

If not, and you just want to re-run the config, you need to use

Login: pi
Password: (station name 1 - all lowercase)

I have very intermittent internet out here in South America, but will try to check back later.

Best Regards

Peter
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 05, 2019, 06:54:14 pm
Using key board and monitor and hdmi cable to pi.

Thanks for the ip scanner found three Linux ip address.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 05, 2019, 06:55:40 pm
Hi Peter..... Thanks
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 05, 2019, 07:43:03 pm
Hi Eric

Let us know how you get on.  The OGN-R station should show as "ognpaw" on the IP scanner.  I've just tried it on my own network.  If it has changed its IP address please let us know the name of your broadband provider and if possible the name of your router and maybe we can find out how to set it to assign a known IP address to the station.

Regards
Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 05, 2019, 08:12:05 pm
Thanks a million for all your help.
No success at all.
My brain is about to explode 🤯 so I have given up for today.   EricC
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 06, 2019, 03:02:56 pm
After further attempts today have discovered that I am still unable to connect to the OGN server.
I guess this has been the case why Peter has had to assist me in the past.
Has anybody got any ideas?
Thanks for all your help up to now.
 
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: Admin on February 06, 2019, 05:11:32 pm
After further attempts today have discovered that I am still unable to connect to the OGN server.
I guess this has been the case why Peter has had to assist me in the past.
Has anybody got any ideas?
Thanks for all your help up to now.

Hi Eric,
Lets try and understand the terminology here, you say
Quote
I am still unable to connect to the OGN server.
Do you really mean this ?
What this says is that your OGN-R ground station is unable to connect via the internet to the central OGN server

Please let me know if this is the case, or whether, from earlier postings the issue is
'logging into the OGN-R'

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 06, 2019, 07:30:45 pm
When I try to connect to https://ognpaw.local:4200 /
WEB page not available.
My mobile is 07905336066 if you can spare the time

Thanks EricC
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 06, 2019, 08:15:38 pm
Hi Eric
did you use the IP scanner you were recommended last night to find the IP address of your ognpaw?
Edit:  I cannot get into mine via the http://ognpaw.local:4200  I have to use the IP Address
Also you do not use https it is only http://

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 06, 2019, 09:13:58 pm
Yes.
Linux
192.168.1.14
192.168.1.3
192.168.1.6
Server
192.168.1.8



.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 06, 2019, 10:00:37 pm
Hi Eric

I can only suggest you try inputting the IP addresses one at a time in the format http://192.168.1.14:4200 into the top url address bar of your browser and see if one of them takes you to the ognpaw Login.

If so enter pi  then press enter,  when prompted for password enter 12345678 then press enter.  Dont forget you will not see any response when you are typing in the numbers so just be careful to hit them in order.

If successful you should then be able to run the configuration file.

Hope this helps
Alan

Edit:
Eric, if you still cannot get in after trying this please tell me who your internet provider is and if possible any info about the router you have.  look for a label on the back or bottom of the router.

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 06:37:25 pm
Provider is TalkTalk-00F0E3
D-Link-3680 wireless N150
ADSL2+ ROUTER
P/N ESL 3680BTTF.A1E
I will check if I have another router to try.
I would not connect.

Thanks. EricC
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 06:45:22 pm
Just tried my mobile with the address.... Failed to connect.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: Admin on February 07, 2019, 07:12:20 pm
Hi Eric

I think we need to go back to basics

Can you connect a keyboard and hdmi monitor?
Sounds like a potential networking issue

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 07:20:00 pm
Yes
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 07:29:45 pm
all connected    Rasbian GNU/Linux  9  raspberrypi tty1
raspberrypi login:
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: Admin on February 07, 2019, 07:36:42 pm
Hi Eric
Now follow the regular OGN installation instructions

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 07:40:32 pm
typed..pi and password nothing happens
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 07, 2019, 08:03:13 pm
Eric, when you type in   pi   and press enter does it then change to ask for password?

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 08:19:38 pm
yes    typed 1 to 8 nothing. this is normal. yes changes from login to password
this is the problem i have had since last update.
Peter sorted out this problem a few months ago

can you gain log on to my system?
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 07, 2019, 08:30:58 pm
So when at password and you type in   12345678 your saying nothing happens.
I am assuming that you have are trying to upload the latest software from a newly prepared  SD card and not trying to access your original version as set up with Peter's assistance.  If it is the latter that you are trying to do then your password will be the one you set up with Peter,  your station name plus the number 1.  all in lower case letters.

sorry Eric , I didn't see your edit until after I posted.  No I don't know how to log into your system, there are things you would have to do to the router to allow someone to do that and I've been looking at your router specs and not sure if it can be done.

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 08:35:10 pm
Down loaded the latest update onto a formatter 4 new micro sd card now in the paw
i an aware of the station name plus one.
i have tried both  pi   poulton1   pwpoulton1
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 07, 2019, 08:47:09 pm
Hi Eric

I'm now running out of ideas.  As you say it's a completed new download then the password should definitely be 12345678.

have you still got the card with the original version and can you try this in the station to see if this still works.  if it does then depending on the version it may be possible to do a manual update over the internet.  Will need Lee to confirm this.

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 08:51:41 pm
Sorry been formatted by formatter4.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 07, 2019, 08:52:26 pm
Just been looking at the OGN coverage map and see there is an OGN-R station at Chipping Airfield which is not that far from you.
Are you familiar with anyone there or could you make contact for some assistance as this would be much easier to sort out with someone who can see what is happening.

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 08:58:18 pm
current connections to pi
pw  aerial.....flarm aerial..........keyboard usb...........1090 dongle usb.......lan1........5vpower

hdmi

when the system starts i can hear the tx transmit on my com receiver.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 09:01:19 pm
i have left my phone number on the chipping glider club house phone.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 07, 2019, 09:12:38 pm
Thanks for all your help.
Sorry for causing all this work for you.
Shall we call it a day for now.
Thanks
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 07, 2019, 10:39:22 pm
No problem Eric, only sorry I've not been more help.
Can't think why the 12345678 password will not let you in.
Only other thing I can think is there has been some corruption when you made the new SD card.
You could try reformatting and downloading the software again.

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: Admin on February 08, 2019, 12:10:34 am
Hi Eric

Might be a stupid question, but when prompted for the password, you should type
12345678
Then carriage return / enter

So after hitting enter, what happens?

Thx
Lee
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 08, 2019, 11:05:06 am
Nothing happens.... Times out and goes to login.  I will try another raspberry pi later.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 08, 2019, 12:02:27 pm
Hi Eric

I think I'd be more inclined to try reformatting the SD card again first and see where that takes you.

Unfortunately i can't use the keyboard and monitor route on mine to get the same picture of events that you get as my setup is in the loft and I can't get connected to a monitor.

Did you try to gain access by using your browser by trying each of those IP addresses in turn that you discovered with the IP Finder.

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 08, 2019, 05:10:27 pm
I have been successful this time.  New raspberry pi, sd card seems to have done the trick.     Thanks a million for all you help.
The setting up process following the instructions was very straightforward.
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: AlanG on February 08, 2019, 05:19:43 pm
Nice one Eric, glad you got it sorted.  Was that A different Raspberry Pi AND a new SD card.

Alan
Title: Re: Unable to load latest update.
Post by: EricC on February 08, 2019, 05:57:53 pm
Thanks yes looks like the problem existed from a while ago that is why Peter  sorted out the problem by re writing part of the files.
The 1090 sdr is connected with outside aerial fot the MLAT tests when required.

Thanks again to you all for helping me.