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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: May 14, 2017, 04:18:28 pm »
Might have been too cool. Mid -40s is pretty low 😜

2-hour flight today, decent weather (18C, sunny); core temp on landing 45C.  Open cockpit cooling  ;)

Multiple flights completed with my new PAW now; still yet to hear the white noise.

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: May 12, 2017, 04:46:14 pm »
Hi Lee,

The recent thread regarding Maximum temperature (and issues with PAW) started by Robski mentions high levels of white noise on the audio output when the PAW unit got very hot. Is it possible that the same mechanism is occurring here?

Interesting.  In case it's helpful to someone, this definitely cannot have been the cause of the white noise issue with my first PAW; it was tucked in a cool spot well out of direct sunlight.  I never saw the core temp rise above the mid-40s, yet still had occasional overwhelming white noise.

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: May 05, 2017, 07:43:37 pm »
Chaps

6 flights completed with my new PAW; almost 10 hours - and zero radio interference.

New PAW has performed almost faultlessly, with the only blip being an unprompted reboot on one flight.

I'm also getting reliable ADS-B out.

Best

Stu

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sorted - with a little help from Lee & Kieth...

link to the help - https://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/173894/can-i-connect-to-wifi-but-still-use-cellular

thanks guys. :)

This is really helpful; thanks - I had been wondering how to do this.  Tried it yesterday and it worked perfectly in flight.  May I suggest that it be included in the user manual?

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: April 28, 2017, 10:48:46 am »
Rich - where are you?  If feasible I'd be happy to meet up and let you try my unit for a test flight.

Lee - my original unit was posted back to you yesterday; hopefully be with you soon, subject to the vagaries of Royal Mail.  I share your concerns about the risk of the problem returning; what gives me some hope is that the transponder link worked perfectly, for the first time in perhaps 20 flights, whereas everything else in the installation remained the same - this, for me, is a more convincing hint that there was a problem with my original unit.  And my interference-free flight was actually two flights  ;) - perfect both there and back.

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: April 26, 2017, 06:38:57 pm »
So I went flying today with the replacement PAW supplied via Dave and Lee.

And...... EVERYTHING WORKED PERFECTLY!!  Finally, I had fully functioning traffic, ADS-B out, no radio interference... and I even had my own registration appearing loud and clear on the traffic page, every time I looked - see attached pic.

I did also move my new PAW unit so that it is now around 50 cm from my radio; I do wonder if its previous extreme closeness was part of my serious noise interference problem. 

On the balance of probabilities, it does also seem that there was a fault with my original unit.  I know I had a dodgy aerial and ADS-B dongle, but it does seem that there was also a more fundamental problem with the underlying unit as not once did it show my own registration on the traffic page when connected via my TRT800H; the new unit did so immediately and continuously.

Now to get back to enjoying the flying!

Thanks guys, and in particular Lee, Peter and Dave who have been super helpful throughout.  Dave - my old unit will be in tomorrow's return post to you.

Best

Stu


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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: April 25, 2017, 03:49:30 pm »
I am reading the manual to see what it says about this.
in section 3.4 EXT – External Audio Input’s Behavior
can I ask what is your setting ?

Hi Lee

It's set to 'Auto Off'.  During my last flight I turned the Ext level down to zero, which should disable it, following the commencement of the noise; the noise continued until I cut the power to the PAW.

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: April 25, 2017, 01:42:40 pm »
Hi Lee

Those charts are for a correctly functioning PAW, no doubt; what if those of mine and Rich are somehow faulty?  In particular, I have a suspicion that the ADS-B dongle might be to blame.  I know it looks like the ATR833 is a common factor, but I wonder if this is a red herring?

I'm also confused as to how the noise could be conducted if my ATR833 input is dialled down to zero; this surely effectively disables the input?

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: April 24, 2017, 06:21:38 pm »
Yes it is physically connected Lee, but even with the external input dialled down to zero I still get the noise and at the same ear-splitting level. I am almost certain it is induced.  I have non-LED strobes, but the noise continues even with them off.  I do get noise from my LED landing lights, but this is on specific frequencies and I can squelch it out; or turn them off!

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: April 24, 2017, 05:11:31 pm »
Hi Rich

I also have the ATR833 radio.  Not sure how feasible it is for you in flight, but it might be worthwhile trying to remove the ADS-B dongle next time the noise occurs.  I just have a hunch that this might be the cause and it would be nice to confirm or exclude.  In my open cockpit gyrocopter all I can do is kill the power; like you have experienced, there is some urgency to do this when the noise kicks in because you can't hear the radio at all.

Let's hope we get this sorted as I love what PAW is about.

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: Occasional Insanely Loud White Noise
« on: April 24, 2017, 03:15:47 pm »
Have just read the link to the other thread, interestingly, like the other poster it's on the SafetyCom frequency where I've had the issue

Just for clarification, as the 'other poster', I've actually never had interference on SafetyCom - plenty of other frequencies, but not 135.475.  Like Rich, I also have the TRT800H (although mine is connected) and the Aukey ground loop isolator.

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: aircraft reg doesn't show any more
« on: April 21, 2017, 05:32:48 pm »
Thanks Peter and Lee; I really appreciate all your help.  Peter - sounds like you are having a way tougher time than me!  Hope you get flying again soon.  Lee, great to chat before.

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: aircraft reg doesn't show any more
« on: April 21, 2017, 10:19:33 am »
It's gone very quiet on here. 

Lee, do I need to return my PAW unit to you,and if so, to which address?

Best

Stu

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Technical Support / Re: aircraft reg doesn't show any more
« on: April 19, 2017, 05:29:35 pm »
Back home now.

With apologies for hijacking Ivor's thread, I thought it would be helpful to summarise my experience with PAW to date in one place so that those who understand these things better than me can make an informed diagnosis.

1.  Prior to installation of PAW, I had no radio interference problems.

2.  On installing PAW, I initially received hardly any traffic and started noticing radio interference problems.  Eventually diagnosed both a faulty ADS-B dongle and aerial. 

3.  As we suspected closeness of the antennas to the transponder aerial may have been the cause of the interference, I have moved my PAW and 1090 MHz aerials away from their original locations and they are now at least 3 feet from the transponder antenna, as recommended in my Funke TRT800H manual. 

4.  The PAW itself remains physically quite close to my radio unit, but I suspect others will have similar installations and my options are limited!

5.  On the first flight after moving the antennas, there was no interference.  However, it has always been intermittent and present on some frequencies whilst clear on others.

6.  On today's flight my base safety com 135.475 was clear, as was Manchester 118.575; Doncaster 126.225 was unreadable due to noise.  Previously I have had unreadable levels of interference on Hawarden 123.350, Liverpool 119.850 and Welshpool 128.000.

7.  When present, the noise is white noise of a very high level and cannot be squelched out.  It disappears when unplugging the PAW.

8.  I have run the PAW from two different Anker 20100 power cores as well as the recommended Anker 12v adapter and have experienced the same radio interference problems through all.

9.  With my new ADS-B dongle and new 1090MHz antenna in their new positions, I am receiving loads of traffic - see pic attached of today's screen grab; 246 aircraft being received!  My traffic volumes have increased perhaps ten-fold since I used the new 1090MHZ aerial.

10.  Despite using the recommended USB-RS232 lead connected to my Funke TRT800H, I have never seen my aircraft appear on the traffic page of PAW.

11.  Funke have not been very helpful throughout the process.  Their instructions say to wire the 'brown' cable from the TRT800H wiring to the data out from the RS232 cable (orange); but there are two browns - see pic attached.  They refused to confirm which one, saying they could not comment on my installation; by a process of elimination I connected as shown.  As for the grounds, again I have had to assume, by a process of elimination, that the bare cable visible in the pic is the ground.

12.  With the transponder wired as per the pic, I have been achieving ADS-B out successfully for a month.  I know this because my FR24 tracks have been transformed and now appear in their entirety.  For example, see pic attached of today's flight - I had to pull the PAW power just before the Ladybower Reservoir, once I'd switched from Manchester to Doncaster and the unreadable interference; my trace disappears immediately.  Although I continued to Netherthorpe and back to Ashcroft on Mode S, without ADS-B, having lost the PAW GPS input, I was invisible to Flight Radar.  So it looks like ADS-B has worked fine, but I've never appeared on the PAW traffic page.

13.  I note that Ivor intermittently appears on his traffic page.

14.  I love what this product is trying to achieve, and can see for some that it works brilliantly.  For me, the ADS-B out functionality is a key point and I'm sad to have lost it.  Outwards visibility from a gyrocopter is superb, but we are hard to spot from other aircraft and I want to be as visible as possible. 

15.  I suspect that (a) I have a faulty unit, (b) I have somehow wired my PAW-transponder incorrectly (but ADS-B out was working fine even today, despite the 'wrong data' message) or (c) there is some grounding issue affecting my radio (but all problems go when PAW is disconnected and there was no problem before PAW installation).

I have returned home with my disconnected PAW module, leaving the antennas in the aircraft.

Many thanks, once again.

Stu


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Technical Support / Re: aircraft reg doesn't show any more
« on: April 19, 2017, 03:09:11 pm »
USB to transponder ground is definitely still firmly connected.

It's a white noise, only on certain frequencies. Today, Manchester approach was fine; Doncaster Radar completely unreadable - even squelch 9 wouldn't clear the noise. Until I disconnected PAW.

Flew back without PAW connected and radio was fine throughout, across all frequencies; squelch 2 was sufficient (squelch 1 is fully open).

Today I was back to my original Anker 20100 power core.

Best

Stu

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