PilotAware
British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: TangoIndiaMike on September 07, 2015, 04:45:13 pm
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Hi
I am getting the components together to build a Pilot Aware. I am not exactly sure which ARF Shield - Digole 5v-3.3v regulator board to get given the warnings posted on this site and the forum. I have bought this one http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121444120528?_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
Can someone confirm its the correct one? if not can someone send me a link to the correct one?!
Thanks
Tim
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Sorry, but I don't believe it is the right one.
It doesn't have the reg soldered on in the picture, it says "The supply voltage and interface should same with your xbee", and the killer, it says "The interface voltage should same with xbee, if you need convert 5.0v interface to 3.3v xbee, use our 3.3 to 5.0v xbee adapter"
You need the 3.3v version.
Thanks
Kev
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Thanks for the reply. Can anyone post a link n where to get one?
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There is a link on the page you posted in your first post :)
"The interface voltage should same with xbee, if you need convert 5.0v interface to 3.3v xbee, use our 3.3 to 5.0v xbee adapter"
http://search.stores.ebay.com/Digole-Digital-Solution_3.3-xbee_W0QQfcdZ2QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ3QQfromZR10QQfsnZDigoleQ20DigitalQ20SolutionQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ170846678QQsofpZ0
Even though that is the right version, please do still check the JMP connection is not soldered as per the faulty batch.
Or buy a PowerPod when you buy your ARF and use that:
https://www.wirelessthings.net/powerpod-1117-3v3
http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,6.msg218.html#msg218
Thanks
Kev
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Hi Kev
Thanks for the reply. Just after i posted that i read about the Power Pod and have just ordered one!
Plus wont have to wait weeks to get it!
Tim
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I am building my third unit, and using the PowerPod (as I did on my second unit). However, when booting up, after 4 attempt at 9600 Baud, and then 10 attempts at 57600 Baud, I am getting the message ARF-RS232: Configuration Failed. I assume this is due to either a 'dry' soldered joint, or a faulty ARF Unit (although all the ARF Boot messages appear the same as on the unit that works). Before I attempt to re-solder all the joints, is there any other diagnostic I can try to narrow down the potential fault ?
TIA
BobD
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Make sure it's not a faulty RPi - I had one, bought from Amazon. The three I have bought from RS all work as expected.
Have you swapped the suspect ARF onto a known working RPi and vice versa?
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The Rpi was bought from RS. I can't swap out the ARF from the previous two units I have built as they are now glued in.
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Or buy a PowerPod when you buy your ARF and use that:
Or buy one of these instead of the POD:
https://www.wirelessthings.net/slice-of-pod-raspberry-pi-to-i-o-pod-plug-and-play-board
Unsolder the 2 extra headers from it so it fits in the box (if required), solder 4 wires to the ARF from it, stick the ARF to the underside of it, plug it into the Pi and you're good to go. Plus you can move it from Pi to another as you don't need to glue it to the box 8)
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I am building my third unit, and using the PowerPod (as I did on my second unit). However, when booting up, after 4 attempt at 9600 Baud, and then 10 attempts at 57600 Baud, I am getting the message ARF-RS232: Configuration Failed. I assume this is due to either a 'dry' soldered joint, or a faulty ARF Unit (although all the ARF Boot messages appear the same as on the unit that works). Before I attempt to re-solder all the joints, is there any other diagnostic I can try to narrow down the potential fault ?
TIA
BobD
In case this was a dry joint, I re-soldered all the joints, tested it and it worked ! I then glued up the parts, and assembled the case, and re-booted. Guess what .... "Configuration Failed".............Grrrrrrr >:(
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I am building my third unit, and using the PowerPod (as I did on my second unit). However, when booting up, after 4 attempt at 9600 Baud, and then 10 attempts at 57600 Baud, I am getting the message ARF-RS232: Configuration Failed. I assume this is due to either a 'dry' soldered joint, or a faulty ARF Unit (although all the ARF Boot messages appear the same as on the unit that works). Before I attempt to re-solder all the joints, is there any other diagnostic I can try to narrow down the potential fault ?
TIA
BobD
In case this was a dry joint, I re-soldered all the joints, tested it and it worked ! I then glued up the parts, and assembled the case, and re-booted. Guess what .... "Configuration Failed".............Grrrrrrr >:(
Hmm
Bob, can I ask that before reassembling, try and run a number of boots to ensure this is not exposing a software timing issue.
I have made a slight change recently regarding the baud rate between the ARF & RPi.
Previously it was always 9600 baud, where as now it boots up at 9600 baud, then it is reconfigured to 57600 baud.
This was to overcome a potential issue of data arriving over the RF faster than it could be processed.
I don't believe I have introduced an issue here, but I would like to know for sure.
Unless you can say that it reliably failed on all reboots before your re-solder ?
Thx
Lee
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Hi Lee,
I am fairly sure its not a software issue that you have introduced, as until today, I still had the other two units I built, and they are working fine. I swapped several components to try to isolate the fault, and by a process of elimination, I am sure it is in the ARF/IDC/POD assembly. After re-soldering, it worked fine on a couple of boots, and before I assembled the box, so it has to be either a bad solder joint or a dicky ARF/POD. I am pretty busy over the next week, so I may wait until Jeremy has the plug&play unit available before completing this PilotAware.
Best Regards
BobD
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Having seen @ianfallon's neat set-up in his thread, I have just ordered the Slice of POD to give this a try. It looks more robust that separate ARF and POD.
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Thanks for this thread as I couldn't track this regulator down either, now just have to wait to complete assembly 😎
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hi Lee
Need to check with you about the regulator?
I've ordered the following: xbee/pro/ciseco XRF breakout board to 0.1" DIP adaptor 3 LED indicator.
Is this correct ?
Best regards
Neil
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hi Lee
Need to check with you about the regulator?
I've ordered the following: xbee/pro/ciseco XRF breakout board to 0.1" DIP adaptor 3 LED indicator.
Is this correct ?
Best regards
Neil
Hi Neil
the important info is that it is the 3.3v version not the 5v version
here is a link to the correct part with a 3.3v regulator
http://digole.com/index.php?productID=438
a lot of people of the forum have used the Wirelessthings regulator instead, that will also work
Thx
Lee
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Really, the easiest solution that requires minimal wiring and messing about is to buy the 'Slice of Pod' from WirelessThings when you buy the ARF.
https://www.wirelessthings.net/slice-of-pod-raspberry-pi-to-i-o-pod-plug-and-play-board
It looks like this.... and the second photo as is when fitted.
I believe a couple of other builders have used it since I posted my original picture - has a 3.3v reg on board and good indication on the board as to which pads to use - you only need to solder 4 wires. It is also cheap at just over £3
The other Pod and the Digole board require glueing into the case - this is just plugged in and can be removed easily.
Only thing required to 'modify' is the removal of the two 'pod' headers which can be 'wiggled' side to side and they will just break off - they are a bit of a bugger to desolder as the board uses plated-through holes.
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Yes I followed your lead and used the SOP - see Model B thread for pics / diagram
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Following a bit of a wait I now have everything but the 40 way IDC but I seem to recall a post regarding the jumper on the ARF shield board does it need linking or not?
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Following a bit of a wait I now have everything but the 40 way IDC but I seem to recall a post regarding the jumper on the ARF shield board does it need linking or not?
The link feeds the 5v supply directly to the PWR pin of the XRF/ARF/XBEE - THIS WOULD BE BAD!
So Please ensure the link is NOT present, I suggest putting a multimeter across the contacts if you are unsure
Thx
Lee