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Title: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: mmcp42 on June 24, 2018, 03:53:27 pm
I have a spare 3B
is the upgrade the same as for retaining the original (Pi2)?
cheers
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: Admin on June 24, 2018, 06:10:57 pm
Hi
If you feel comfortable doing the upgrafe yourself, simply order the DIY upgrade and swap the pi2 to pi3
We can swap the license for you
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: mmcp42 on June 24, 2018, 07:03:45 pm
ordered :)
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: Keithvinning on June 24, 2018, 11:56:00 pm
Great

When you order you will be sent an email on where to send your bridge back to. Just put a note in with your old MAC and the new MAC and we will make the change for you. NO CHARGE OF COURSE.

Keith
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: mmcp42 on June 25, 2018, 05:25:22 pm
email received
wilco!
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on June 26, 2018, 07:55:25 am
What does the Pi3B add over the Pi2? Is there a difference between the Pi3B and Pi3B+?

Francois
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: exfirepro on June 26, 2018, 08:48:51 am
What does the Pi3B add over the Pi2? Is there a difference between the Pi3B and Pi3B+?

Francois


Hi Francois

The Pi3B is a faster board that the Pi2, so processes the increased levels of data more efficiently. The major improvement, however, is that it has onboard WiFi, so we no longer need a separate WiFi dongle. This improves efficiency and frees up a USB slot for those who might want to run dual receive (for 978MHz weather) or add connections to their transponder (for 'ADSB-Out') or to an onboard FLARM receiver.

The Pi 3B+ uses slightly different architecture from the 3B so needs a different software version. Initial tests using this showed a couple of issues which require further work, so the Pi 3B+ is not currently supported.

Best Regards

Peter
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on June 27, 2018, 08:41:27 am
Thanks Peter, excellent info as usual.
Kind regards
Francois
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: TrevM on July 01, 2018, 06:56:01 pm
Great

When you order you will be sent an email on where to send your bridge back to. Just put a note in with your old MAC and the new MAC and we will make the change for you. NO CHARGE OF COURSE.

Keith

(Can't find the answer to this on forum already, so probably a silly question, but...) when I query ip addr in the command line to get the MAC address for my RPi3 there two choices: either eth0 or wlan0. Which one is needed for the licence change (presume eth0, but just want to confirm)?

Thanks

Trevor
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: exfirepro on July 01, 2018, 07:20:46 pm
Trev,

Getting the MAC direct from the Raspberry Pi is not my area of expertise, but if it helps, what we need is the 12 character MAC Address which will start B827EB.....

For 'non-techies', the normal way to determine the MAC address is to put the microSD containing the PilotAware Software from your existing PAW into the 'new' Pi3, power it up and watch for the WiFi to appear on your phone or tablet WiFi list. You won't need a WiFi dongle with the Pi3 as this is contained on the board (or any of the other 'dongles' at this stage). Once the software has booted, the MAC address should appear automatically as part of the 'new' WiFi address.

Hope this helps.

Regards

Peter
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: Admin on July 01, 2018, 08:54:07 pm
To follow up the original question, it is the eth0 MAC
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on July 04, 2018, 03:00:17 pm
Is there ever likely to be the option just to upgrade the bridge to the new one? I have a new case, the new aerials etc as I've previously upgraded those items myself. Seems wasteful to get all the new bits, when all I need is a new bridge is all.

Kind regards
Francois
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: exfirepro on July 05, 2018, 09:39:06 am
Hi Francois,

 ‘Rosetta Bridge’ production is all going into new Rosettas and upgrade kits at present to keep up with demand, but I would think they will become available at some point as separate items to allow Home-Built PilotAware’s to be upgraded and of course in due course as ‘replacements’. Not sure when though. Perhaps Keith can advise.

Regards

Peter
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on July 17, 2018, 02:01:42 pm
I see now that the DIY kits of out of stock. I've bought a new Raspberry Pi 3B for now. Will I need to update the licence information if I change the Raspberry, or is that Bridge-linked?
Kind regards
Francois
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: Admin on July 17, 2018, 02:09:26 pm
I see now that the DIY kits of out of stock. I've bought a new Raspberry Pi 3B for now. Will I need to update the licence information if I change the Raspberry, or is that Bridge-linked?
Kind regards
Francois

Hi Fransois
the License is linked to the Pi not the Bridge
Thx
Lee
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on July 18, 2018, 03:03:16 pm
Thanks Lee - when I get my new Pi, who do I email to move the licence to the new MAC address? I was having wifi issues and thought the built in wifi chip might help (didn't think it could hurt). I will get a new bridge in the DIY kit when these are back in stock.
Regards
Francois
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on July 18, 2018, 03:09:28 pm
Sorry spotted this in another message from you to another thread:
send an email to support@pilotaware.com requesting a license transfer, providing
name
email
old MAC address
new MAC address


Posting here in case anyone else missed it! Thanks and apologies for not spotting that sooner.

Francois
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on July 27, 2018, 12:42:16 pm
I have a longer 5dBi 1090 MHz NooElec aerial that I bought some time ago. Is this better/indifferent to the shorter 1090MHz aerial in the upgrade kit? What are the differences?

Kind regards
Francois
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: Ian Melville on July 27, 2018, 01:27:53 pm
A 5db gain will possibly take you over the legal ERP limit. Depends on the length of the cable run.

Not an issue if you are using it to receive only.
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: Admin on July 27, 2018, 01:47:01 pm
Hi Ian, Francois

Ian, firstly I think this is regarding the 1090Mhz (receive), so gain is not an issue.
Francois, yes you could use this, the question I would ask you is 'why do you want to do this ?'

If you are concerned about the performance, this will not be an issue.
Using the standard 1090Mhz tuned antenna, I receive signals from 200km easily
As this product is intended for localised traffic avoidance, 200km is interesting, but utterly useless :o

thx
Lee
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: francoisvl on July 27, 2018, 04:04:45 pm
Short answer is because I have one from doing my own case upgrade previously when I broke the aerial previously supplied. I think it may look neater and since I already have it was wondering if there was a reason not to use it. Many thanks!
Title: Re: upgrade to Rosetta and change to Pi3B
Post by: exfirepro on August 14, 2018, 06:56:53 am
Hi again Francois,

Coming back late to this thread as I have been on holiday. Acknowledging the above comments, there is no technical reason not to use the higher gain antenna for 1090MHz receive. Just be aware that it might skew the Mode C/S Alerts slightly as they are triggered by received signal strength, which will appear stronger from the higher gain antenna. This means you might experience more alerts at slightly increased range. If this is the case, you can compensate by selecting a shorter Mode C/S Detect Range on the Configure Screen. (Don’t forget to ‘Save’ any changes).

Best Regards

Peter