PilotAware
British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: ian_h on May 17, 2016, 12:50:04 pm
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Hi
Very excited to get my new unit today.
Followed instructions ok to assemble and get the 1 year licence key.
When I entered the IP address 192.168.1.1 to get to the configuration page to update the licence code it takes me to the configuration page for my TP link Powerline extender instead. Tried on several different devices with the same effect.
Is there another route to the configuration page or how can I fix?
Thanks
Ian
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Hi Ian
Are you logged onto the pilot aware hotspot when putting in the ip address 192.168.1.1?
Keith
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By this I mean logged onto pilotAware wifi hotspot from your tablet
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Nope - just followed instructions to go to Wi-Fi config page to get MAC address. Does not mention to log in and was nervous to do so before updating licence. If I log in to Wi Fi hotspot first all works fine so thanks very much for that. May be worth quick clarification of install instructions to tell peeps to log in first for the hard of thinking like me.
One other quick question - I use Sky Demon on an ipad without internal GPS and previously had to use a blue tooth connection to a GNS 5870 MFI external GPS antennae from which I find the location data link to the I-pad is frequently dropped /lost.
Can I now use the internal pilot aware GPS through the wi fi hotspot to feed sky demon location data and do away with the other GNS device?
Many thanks
Ian
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Hi Ian,
May be worth quick clarification of install instructions to tell peeps to log in first for the hard of thinking like me.
Yes, I think clarification needed
One other quick question - I use Sky Demon on an ipad without internal GPS and previously had to use a blue tooth connection to a GNS 5870 MFI external GPS antennae from which I find the location data link to the I-pad is frequently dropped /lost.
Can I now use the internal pilot aware GPS through the wi fi hotspot to feed sky demon location data and do away with the other GNS device?
Yes PilotAware will provide its own GPS feed
Thx
Lee
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One other quick question - I use Sky Demon on an ipad without internal GPS and previously had to use a blue tooth connection to a GNS 5870 MFI external GPS antennae from which I find the location data ink to the I-pad is frequently dropped /lost.
Can I now use the internal pilot aware GPS through the wi fi hotspot to feed sky demon location data and do away with the other GNS device?
Yes thats the great thing about PilotAware Classic you can now use a cheaper iPad without an internal GPS as the one that comes with the PilotAware Classic does all the GPS work.
To set up SkyDemon please see section 13 of the Software Installation document on this forum
Keith
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Hi
Two other ideas on install notes.
Let people know if they have a support question they can only post it on General section of forum took me a while to work this out.
Supply a URL link to the forum / chapter on individual device installs as you have kindly done for me in this post.
Brill stuff just providing feedback to hopefully make life easier for everyone going forwards!
Many thanks
Ian
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Hi
So licence all set up and Software installed Unit plug into power source and next to ipad.
Followed chapter on how to use Sky Demon via Flarm with 6000 code but I get an error message:
'Failed to establish a connection with Butterfly Connect unit.'
Tried turning ipad on and off.
Tried turning location services on and off (assume this does not need to be on when using Flarm?)
but no joy. Suggestions please?
Thanks
Ian
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Hi Ian
So firstly, please confirm, in all cases from your iPad
1. You can connect to the PilotAware hotspot
2. Run Safari and go to http://192.168.1.1
are there any issues reported on any interfaces ?
if you are unsure, please take a screenshot and post here.
3. Running Skydemon whilst connected to Hotspot PilotAware-xxxxxxxxxxxx
Thx
Lee
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Ok my mistake - had dropped wi-fi hot spot whilst taking it outside.
May be worth documenting that error message means dropped wi-fi.
All now working great and picking up circuit traffic from Redhill 10 miles away !!
One last question (for now anyway) - charging time and approximate usage time for internal battery?
I am off flying, whilst of course keeping a darn good lookout with Mark one eye ball!!!
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Sometimes one feels a bit of a clot! I now know it's no use doing everything on my desktop......................when I use a tablet! ;)
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Hi Ian,
One last question (for now anyway) - charging time and approximate usage time for internal battery?
This time you do have the better of me, are you referring to PilotAware ?
If so this requires USB power, either from a PowerPack or from a (good quality) 12v USB adapter
Thx
Lee
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ok no worries - I wrongly assumed the unit had an internal rechargeable battery like the GNS blue tooth aerial which charges up from the USB power source.
I guess with the GPS receiver and PAW receiver / transmitter there's an awful lot going on to be supported by an internal battery
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Hi Ian,
We tend to use a lot of PowerPacks and USB Adapters, in the case of the PowerPacks we get around 5 hrs of usage.
There are few reports on the forum where pilots have used different power solutions, might be worth a look around.
Just remember, you really want to go for one that will provide 2.0A for a good margin.
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ok last last question ....
Where's best to look for advice on optimal orientation / placement of the two aerials?
First use will be in a Piper tri pacer
Ian
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Hi Ian
We are about to complete a paper on installation including antennas.
Until then PilotAWare Classic will work on the coaming so long as the two aerials and the GPS can see clear sky.
This is how I have used it on my sportscruiser
However make sure that where you position it doesn't get too hot as some of the windscreens act like lenses.
If you do a more permanent installation then you must ensure that it is approved for your type of aircraft particularly if you drill holes this will need approval.
Keith
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Great thanks
I was just wondering whether rear parcel shelf would work but that I suspect that is shielded upwards by metallic wing tanks and downwards by metal covering panels
PS Fantastic achievement to get this all together at this price point with such great functionality - well done everyone involved !!
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I was just wondering whether rear parcel shelf would work but that I suspect that is shielded upwards by metallic wing tanks and downwards by metal covering panels
Quite so and forwards by two bags of water (you and your passenger, I'm not being rude its just thats how physics see you as far as radio wave propagation is concerned) and a solid lump of engine in front of that . Although the rear parcel shelf looks like a good place logistically its probably the worst place as far as the radio is concerned. Best thing to think about is water and metal bad, a good view of the outside good.
Keith
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Hi Keith,
Alan and I did some 'Bridge' testing today. A nice change from testing Mode S. Results were very favourable, though even with years of fiddling with aerials as a 'Radio Ham' - I was surprised how significant aerial placement can be on this frequency and how easily signal can be attenuated by pilots/aircraft bodywork/engines. We got good cover in our initial test to well over 5+miles ( which I would consider a perfectly reasonable range for P3i detection) with no loss of signal (in my case using a FLARM dipole inside my flexwing pod). Unfortunately weather/ time precluded further testing.
Supplementary note to avoid confusion to other readers - I am NOT trying to imply that this is P3i's maximum useable range, simply the maximum distance apart we got during our short test flight with 'test' aerials. As I say, weather precluded further flying and I have no reason to doubt previously reported results. In any case even as a worst case scenario for plane to plane detection, 5 miles is further away than most of us can see a light aircraft in anything less than perfect conditions.
Regards
Peter
p.s. congrats on the RAeC Award!