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British Forum => General Discussion => Topic started by: H2O on March 22, 2017, 12:37:29 pm
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Just bought PAW, i would like to know if it´s possible to connect PAW and other device to transmit ADSB 1090 aswell on Skydemon ( eg Sky Echo )
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The device that SkyDemon runs (iPad / Android) can only connect to one Wireless HotSpot device.
That device could be either PAW, or SkyEcho, but not both.
SkyEcho can Provide ADS-B Data to SkyDemon
PilotAware can Provide ADS-B, Mode-C, Mode-S, P3I Data to SkyDemon
So in both cases ADS-B is provided
Thx
Lee
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H2O,
To supplement Lee's reply above, we had a similar issue from a PAW and Sky-Echo User some time back over on another thread. See here, but probably worth also reading the whole thread:
http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,760.msg9273.html#msg9273
If you already have a Sky-Echo and don't want to run two separate displays, you could run the Sky-Echo as a blind transmitter (providing you are NOT also running a Mode S transponder) and use your PilotAware as the common receiver (which will also continue to transmit its own position via P3i). If I remember correctly Sean decided to run two separate tablets so he can see both system displays as he has plenty of space to do so.
The Sky-Echo is otherwise a lot of money for a 'blind' low power ADSB transmitter which can't be seen by ATC or commercial traffic !
Regards
Peter
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Thanks a lot :) :) :) :) Exfirepro and Lee, just trying to get transmission 1090 to show on Fr 24, and with PAW i think i can´t get it
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The purpose of PAW is to stop you bumping into other aircraft, not to provide entertainment to the internet :)
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Ian you're right and that's the reason I bought PAW instead of Sky Echo, but if I want that a family member can track my flights specially long ones it could be a safety ad on too
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The cost of SkyEcho is a bit steep for that.
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What you suggest ? I have a Mod C transponder.
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For now, I would not do anything. There is a lot of things going on in this technical field and I would wait and see what happens.
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What you suggest ? I have a Mod C transponder.
....which you obviously can't upgrade to ADSB out. Not an easy decision. I can see why you are looking at the Sky-Echo, which you could certainly still use with your Mode C. The Sky-Echo transmitter only needs to be turned off if you are running a Mode S transponder, but if that was the case you could feed gps data from your PAW to upgrade Mode S to full power ADSB out. Remember that unlike most ADSB transmitters, the Sky-Echo is low powered (only 20 Watts) so might not show very reliably on FR24 anyway.
As Ian says, things are changing rapidly in this field, so very difficult to give definitive advice I"m afraid.
Regards
Peter
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Hi H2O,
I note you are using Sky Demon. You may not be aware that EasyVFR Nav program has a facility called Virtual Radar. This uses "spare" capacity on 3/4G to record your track and position during flight which friends or family can access on their internet site, overlaid onto Google maps. Ive tried it and very effective it is too. Probably won't work out of range of mobile phone masts though such as long water crossings. It's not ADS-B but it's free if you use EVFR.
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Thanks for both reply's.
Moffrestorer I have SkyDemon and Airnavigation Pro wich have that function too, I've tried it but there are a lot of areas with low coverage ( mountains and country area ) I'm from Portugal and here aswell in Spain the coverage is low in mountains and countryside.
Exfirepro, that's the issue with a adsb transceiver as Sky Echo I might not need to buy a transponder Mod S ES wich could cost 2500€ plus install. Perhaps PAW could in the future have the possibility to upgrade to transmit 1090?
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What about the Satelite tracking options used by long distance flights?
Just picked one a random
http://www.findmespot.eu/en/index.php?cid=128 or http://www.findmespot.eu/en/index.php?cid=100
There is a monthly subscription, but it would take quite a few years to get close to the cost of SkyEcho, and would seem more suited to your needs?
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Thanks Ian, going to considerer this option it's cheaper and probably more accurate.
Like exfirepro said the Sky echo transmits at 20 w and the usual transponder's do it between 160 to 200, that's a huge difference, so I think the skyecho might not be received by FR24 .
I could change to a transponder mod S adsb out 1090 ÉS but the cost could reach 3000, like the garmin GTX 335, I could change transponder but in the meantime I can keep the Mod c until it's mandatory a Mod S
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If you're thinking about a Mode S transponder, have a look at the Bendix King KT74.
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I decided to buy a Mod S transponder with ES, any advice ? Fair Price and easy to connect to paw to get adsb out.
I have garmin GTX 327 so it must be of the same size
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Both the Trig TT31 and its King clone (same guts, difference faceplate) are similar in size to the Garmin 327, but you'd need to check the exact dimensions. Much cheaper than the Garmin equivalents.
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I Also highly recommend Trig, they have the best backup service you will ever find in aviation
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Trig is ES right? Just seen the dimensions it's almost the same of garmin GTX 327
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Well, I wouldn't have mentioned it if it wasn't. ;)
I have had one for over seven years, and have been transmitting ADS-B (from a certified source) with it for the last six.
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Thanks Graham I will buy the Trig, but connect with Paw or a Garmin Aera 500 to give gps to transponder in other threads I've seen people connecting paw to trig to feed GPS.not sure wich is best or easier to connect
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I'd suggest looking at local regulations about connecting an uncertified GPS to a transponder for ADS-B before committing.
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Can anyone give me the link ( if there is ) regarding connecting PAW to Trig 31? I can only found this one of trig 21 and don't know if it's different , although if there's a guideline would be useful.
http://forum.pilotaware.com/index.php/topic,747.0.html
Thanks in advance