PilotAware
British Forum => Technical Support => Topic started by: Del-Boy69 on July 01, 2019, 06:52:50 pm
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Hi There, I have just loaded new version of PilotAware 20190621, and I now try to connect via Bluetooth my Bose A20 headset, however it just scans for the 30 secs and then stops, the Bose is in pairing mode as I connected it to an Ipad to make sure. Anyone done this or could help please?
Derek
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I use the A20s all the time, and have no issues connecting to this version (or the engineering releases during testing ...]
Is the Bluetooth led blue/purple when you’re trying to pair? (And Bluetooth switched on too ..)
Cheers
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yes Bluetooth on, flashing purple/blue, The iPad can see it and I can make it pair with the iPad, just not Rosetta, it says scanning in red then just stops, headset carry's on flashing
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Sean, Derek, could this be a version issue of the headsets ?
Is there anything to report regarding versions, date of purchase ...
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Bose A20 prior to July 2015 were only comparable with phone connection, and could not be used to stream audio as used with PAW. The control unit has a phone handset symbol rather than the international Bluetooth symbol. After July 2015 the control was changed to allow streaming audio.
Headsets can be modified, but it ain’t cheap.
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They are 2017 Headset!
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Mine are 2017 too.....I originally had the old bluetooth module but changed it for the new one that does audio.....I think the cost was around £150 to change the module....
Setting up with PAW was a little faffy.....as mentioned press the scan button on the PAW.....I think I then pressed the bluetooth button on the headset.....I did it a couple of times but it eventually showed up with the mac address and bose written at the end of it on the PAW
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Does sound like you have the old headset, possibly sat on a shelf for a year :-(
https://community.bose.com/t5/Headphones-Archive/Bose-A20-Aviation-Headest-Issue/td-p/66081
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Question from a newbie on here!
Does anyone know if the Bluetooth in Mk1 Lightspeed Zulus work ok or are they like early Bose not suitable for audio?
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Form the LightSpeed website for the 'Zulu Original' as they call them.
Bluetooth Connectivity
Full stereo music streaming (A2DP) compatibility allows wireless connection from Bluetooth phones or other devices.
Only one way to be 100% sure.
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Thanks for that...As you say only really one way to be sure!!
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I just double checked headset and tried to connect it to iPhone then Ipad to listen to music, worked first time, so headset deffo the right one. Can I connect the Rosetta to any other device to check it? Will PAW give audio warnings through Sky Demon on Ipad? I could use that? or is it possible that the BT is just broke on Rossetta?
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Del-Boy,
PilotAware won’t give audio warnings through SD via Bluetooth in the way you mean, but you can connect it to give audio warnings through virtually any Bluetooth speaker or headset. I used several ‘domestic type’ BT headsets and speakers during testing and all worked as expected.
Regards
Peter
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De-Boy69,
Though you do once mention Rosetta, can you confirm that your PAW is a Rosetta unit, not the earlier classic?
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Delboy
Is the problem devices are not seen after scanning
Or cannot connect to devices
Thx
Lee
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Hi There, yes it is a Rosetta Model, when I hit scan it says scanning for the 30 secs or so, then it turns red and says scanning, and after about 30 secs it just comes back to screen as before where you can hit scan again.
Derek
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Hi Derek,
Do you have any other BT devices you can put into pairing mode to see if it detects anything ?
Thx
Lee
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I am having the same trouble, the scan does not list any Bluetooth devices on the configuration page despite switching on loads of various devices.
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I am having the same trouble, the scan does not list any Bluetooth devices on the configuration page despite switching on loads of various devices.
Strange, although I think there will be bugs (as it is new software), I thought most would be in connecting and not scanning
Thx
Lee
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I am away for a couple of weeks now, so not able to test any further until then, I will still have some internet connection to check on here, but if someone else is having issues too, it may be a small glitch :) Will be in contact upon return
Thanks
Derek
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Sounds odd ..
Does the same happen on the second scan (ie, re-run the BT scan)..?
There were some hiccups with the early tests (a long while ago) but they were all ironed out … It's pretty much faultless for me at the moment ...
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Hi All,
I seem to remember having an issue the first time I tried to connect to BT - a year or so ago, but can’t remember the details. I know I did manage to get it working and haven’t had any issues since.
I am on holiday at the moment but have a Rosetta and a Bluetooth speaker with me (sad or what) so will give it a run after Dinner and see if I can remember what the issue was.
Regards
Peter
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thanks :)
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@Del-Boy69
OK I managed a test session last night as promised (late - after the Grandkids had gone to bed, so my brain wasn’t at its sharpest).
I managed to find the bit in my notes re first Bluetooth Tests, which was from last November - so not a year ago, though it certainly feels like it! The problem I had then wasn’t getting the Rosetta to find the BT device - it managed that OK - it was getting Rosetta to connect to the device after finding it.
From Test Notes Mid November 2018
Currently displaying traffic on SD via GDL90, with audio via a small BT speaker, though there was a slight ‘glitch’ getting the speaker to connect first time - possibly due to the speaker rather than PilotAware.
I told the speaker to ‘forget it’s previous connection’, then ran the BT ‘Scan’ on Rosetta Config and the speaker appeared on the Scan list almost right away - with its name: Mifa_A1.
When I then pressed ‘Connect’ (after waiting ‘til the Scan had finished) PAW went through its normal ‘Busy’ stage but no connection appeared - verified by no audio when I tried the ‘Test’ button, so I went back to the BT screen and pressed the correct ‘Connect’ button again. This time after the ‘Busy’ stage the button went Green and changed to ‘Connected’ - nice touch! - and all is now well.
This was just an initial glitch with that one particular speaker and I had no further problems during testing with that and a variety of other speakers and (domestic Hi-Fi type) headsets (My aviation headsets don’t do BT).
Unfortunately on last night’s session with a completely fresh install of 20190621 on a standard ‘Rosetta’, I failed to get the same Mifa_A1 speaker to appear on the Rosetta ‘Scan List’ at all - probably because the speaker kept automatically connecting to my phone each time I switched it on and my attempts to get it to forget the phone pairing and go back into ‘pairing mode’ didn’t work. I don’t have the speaker manual with me and it isn’t available on the Mifa website :-\ >:( , so this morning I Googled ‘Pairing Mifa A1’ and found I was pressing the wrong keys to get it to forget its previous pairing.
All well and good, reset the speaker and re-ran the Scan - speaker appeared in the scan list after a few minutes. After waiting for the Scan to finish, I pressed the relevant ‘Connect’ button and after a short while the speaker now shows as ‘connected’ (No ‘Green Button’ though Lee, so I guess you have changed something since the version I ran this on last - I didn’t get a chance to test BT in the run-up to this release, but more importantly I’m getting no audio when I press the Audio ‘Test’ button in ’Config’ and there are no aircraft about to trigger any alerts. I need to do some further testing to see what is going on, but the Grandkids are now up and we are supposed to be going over to Mull today. I will get back to you.
Regards
Peter
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I have experienced similar problems every time I have tried to pair the Rosetta with our PAR200A BT equipped audio panel in the aircraft.
It takes about three 'scans' before the PAR200A appears in the list. Once it does, however, connection is acheived first time.
Anothe 'issue' is that the BT volume level is not adjustable, despite selecting, say, 4 and saving the setting, the BT audio is always very loud!
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I have experienced similar problems every time I have tried to pair the Rosetta with our PAR200A BT equipped audio panel in the aircraft.
It takes about three 'scans' before the PAR200A appears in the list. Once it does, however, connection is acheived first time.
Anothe 'issue' is that the BT volume level is not adjustable, despite selecting, say, 4 and saving the setting, the BT audio is always very loud!
Actually, I think the Volume only controls the wired connection
Its strange it takes 3 attempts - is that always the case ?
thx
Lee
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Hi Lee
Of the 3 times that I have flown with the new software, it has certainly never seen the PAR200A first time. Next time I will wait a little longer after the comms panel has been switched on before attempting a scan in case the BT part of the panel takes a lot longer than the audio part does to start up.
I usually tend to attempt to pair the PAW to the PAR after pre-taxi checks have been completed. It would be nice if the PAW could have a BT device selectable to pair to as default so this doesn't have to be done each time in my case .