PilotAware
British Forum => Technical Support => Topic started by: AllanBirt on July 01, 2018, 09:30:15 pm
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Evening All
Has anyone experienced GPS drop outs since upgrading a Classic to a Rosetta. All was ok before the upgrade, I have attached some screenshots so hopefully it can be resolved.
I was getting these drop outs to and from Fenland today.
Alan
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Hi Alan
Can I get the track for your flight and a home page screenshot
Is this a pi 2 or 3
Thx
Lee
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Morning Lee
This is a PI 3, same one used in the classic, before the upgrade. I’ll be popping up the airfield later and I’ll download all the data and drop ya an email.
Allan
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Hi Allan
Great.
I notice 2 WiFi devices connected.
Can I ask what type of devices, and what are they running ?
thx
Lee
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Hi Lee
The two devices connected were my iPad mini 4 running Skydemon & iphone 8, just paired for a backup. Both running the latest ios 11.4.
I have also just dropped you an email with the two track files from yesterday flight to Fenland.
Allan
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Having used my classic extensively for last three years, achieving 350 hours with it on SD. The only issue I had was drop out of satellites at Fenland, pilotaware would not function. Had to switch over to galaxy tab2 internal gps to get navigation back on line. NOTAMS did indicate fast jet exercises nearby.. Why would paw gps drop out and tablet gps work, latest software updates on all items.
Now completely changed to Rosetta unit, no issues but only 20 hours on it. But impressed with what it detects especially gliders, now able to re route flights to avoid the masses.
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Sods law, what was a reliable connection my new Rosetta lost gps fix, however using same mouse antenna, will change out to see if this improves.
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Interesting we have had a few reports on Android
The issue has been the ‘battery saver option’ being enabled
Please check and report back
Thx
Lee
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Checked my settings in Samsung Galaxy tab2, nothing found that would switch off wifi on battery saving mode.
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Checked my settings in Samsung Galaxy tab2, nothing found that would switch off wifi on battery saving mode.
Hi Mike
are you saying you think 'Battery Save Mode' does not affect WiFi ?
or are you saying, your tab does not have the option of 'Battery Save Mode'
Thx
Lee
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https://www.technobezz.com/android-wont-connect-to-wi-fi/
Solution 4: The Power Saving Mode
The power saving mode is meant to help your battery consume less power. Since the Wi-Fi is known to drain the battery quickly, when you switch on the Power Saving mode, it usually disconnects your Wi-Fi. Make sure Power Saving Mode is Off. You can Access Power Saving Mode from the Settings menu of your Samsung Galaxy phone.
Many Samsung Galaxy S3 users had reported an issue that the Samsung Galaxy won’t connect to Wi-Fi disabled saying it was because of poor connection. It was found that when the phone returned from sleep mode, the power saving mode interfered with the Wi-Fi and it somehow interrupted the connection. The problem was in the software so users had to ensure that Power Saving Mode was switched Off if they wanted to use a stable Wi-Fi connection.
Check if the Power Saving Mode is creating a conflict in your phone so that you can fix the Wi-Fi problem on your Samsung Galaxy device or any other Android device.
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Hello all
FYI: I recently upgraded to Rosetta... I had no dropouts from the classic unit and test flew the Rosetta on Sunday, I got several dropouts when doing any slightly aggressive manoeuvres while practicing my display routine.
Same position with good power supply.
Dan
G-MUSO
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Hello all
FYI: I recently upgraded to Rosetta... I had no dropouts from the classic unit and test flew the Rosetta on Sunday, I got several dropouts when doing any slightly aggressive manoeuvres while practicing my display routine.
Same position with good power supply.
Dan
G-MUSO
Maybe you can try to use an external USB GPS receiver, placed in a position where it will be better exposed to the sky.
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Hi
Thanks for the feedback, but the point is it didnt happen at all with the pilotaware classic.
Dan
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Hello all
FYI: I recently upgraded to Rosetta... I had no dropouts from the classic unit and test flew the Rosetta on Sunday, I got several dropouts when doing any slightly aggressive manoeuvres while practicing my display routine.
Same position with good power supply.
Dan
G-MUSO
Hi Dan,
Difficult to guess what is going on without knowing your exact setup (position and orientation of unit, etc.- nice plane BTW!)
Rosetta uses a newer style of GPS dongle from the ‘Classic’, with a bigger ceramic antenna, designed to pick up more satellites and thus be more reliable. The electronics are also now contained in a metal shield on the underside of the board, which is great in terms of protecting the GPS from RFI, but means that the antenna will be more susceptible to shielding when the unit is ‘upside down’ - e.g. when performing Aeros. We have already experienced this problem where users have inadvertently fitted their Rosetta ‘upside down’ in their aircraft.
Having said all that, I seem to remember a couple of reports of the gps dongle coming loose in its socket, so it would be worth checking that it’s a tight fit - especially if subjecting the unit to any sort of ‘aggressive’ flying.
Please keep us informed.
Regards
Peter
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Hi Lee and team,
I've been experiencing a lot of dropouts since the rosetta upgrade. The same leads, power source, but my ipad is regularly losing the connection. The ipad is about half a meter from the unit. The older one never dropped out, but since the upgrade and install of 20190621 its become almost useless flying around controlled airspace because of how unreliable its become losing the ipad.
It could be something i've done? I've uploaded the last two flights to the replay website and all seem complete, is there a log file I can send over for your review?
Appreciate your help.
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Hi shortwing
Please post your configure and hom pages after running for 10 mins
Also, what nav software and connection method do you use ?
Thx
Lee
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Hi Lee,
Thanks for replying, i'll run it tomorrow, Skydemon wifi connection.
Reviewing the tracks they seem to finish before I turned the device off, i'll send those links tomorrow also.
Many thanks Lee
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Lee, see below
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Flight logs are uploaded on the aircrew website
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Flight logs are uploaded on the aircrew website
Lee would need the link to see it. Is it this one: https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/15bd5c ?
TRK file: https://aircrew.co.uk/playback/uploads/15bd5c/track.trk
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Hi Shortwing
Please change the UDP select from auto to PilotAware
The log indicates it is toggling the connection method
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,192.168.1.26,IP,A4:F1:E8:AE:79:04,MAC,CONNECTED
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:2000,DISCONNECTED
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:4000,ATTEMPT
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:4000,DISCONNECTED
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:2000,ATTEMPT
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:2000,DISCONNECTED
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:4000,ATTEMPT
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:4000,DISCONNECTED
$PALOG,20190714,144527,WIFI,UDP,192.168.1.26:2000,ATTEMPT
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Hi Lee,
Changed it as you suggested, still had a few issues today. I've uploaded the three tracks and will PM you the links. Something strange - it must be my setup but I cannot figure out why.
Todays aircraft was a PA28, the unit was sat flat on the panel, USB cable to the cigarette lighter USB socket.