Installing in EuroFOX

[G-JBVP]

Has anyone installed in a EuroFOX mounting external antenna if so any help,you can give me on where to get antennas from and best place to mount would be appreciated.

I know the documentation gives quite a bit of info but I'm not that technically minded so any help with suppliers and part numbers would be a great help

Thanks

[Keithvinning]

Installing in a Eurofox will be good

All the places to get the bits are shown in the permanent installation instructions just click on the links
http://www.pilotaware.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/161205-Permanent-Installation.pdf
You will need a Power supply shown in the instructions
A GPS mouse
You will probably get away with using the existing ADSB antenna (the thin one) as the Eurofox is a fabric aircraft so little shielding
You may also consider using the centre fed dipole as the antenna for the PilotAware TxRx this is available from
http://pilotawarehardware.com/product/dipolecouplet-antenna/
This can be placed somewhere away from the Chromo frame perhaps behind the luggage compartment high up between the side stringers so its above the pilot and passenger. Use a plastic tube to hold it up. It must be vertically positioned.

Where are you based ?

[PaulSS]

I'm looking at doing the same thing, even though my aircraft won't even be delivered until late next year.....but you gotta have a plan 

The Eurofox (normally) seems to have a TED-type antenna for the transponder, similar to this:

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ted_transponder.php

This appears to normally be mounted underneath the seats and has a pretty decent sized aluminium ground plane. I have asked for an extended ground plane to be fitted when my machine is eventually built. I envisage this being in the same place beneath the seats but running the whole width of the aircraft. To this ground plane I hope (assuming my plan is sound) to fit another one of the antennas above for the ADSB reception of PAW. For symmetry I would like to mount it on the opposite side of the aircraft to the transponder 'TED' antenna but that might not be possible if someone tells me it'll interfere or some such. Between these two antennas I would like to mount one of these (I've already ordered it but awaiting delivery):

http://www.gps.co.uk/antenna-exterior-gav-868-flarm/p-0-2024/

This antenna will be used for the P3I part of the PAW.

The power supply to my PAW will be via a Charge4 USB charger and it'll have a Bluetooth transmitter plugged into the jack to give me PAW audio through the headset Bluetooth connection. If the GPS dongle is unable to do its job because it is hidden behind the panel and underneath the coaming then I shall connect a GPS mouse and probably mount that atop the coaming and well forward, where I can't see it ruining my minimalist panel.

All very pi-in-the-sky (yes, I deliberately spelt it that way because I am being a smart-arse) but that is my basic plan. If the two TEDs outside is a no-go then I'll use the supplied ADSB antenna inside the fuselage and just have the P3I and transponder antenna externally mounted.

As for the actual physical mounting of the antenna, I reckon if the existing ground plane is man enough to take the normal transponder antenna with no special brackets, then an aircraft-wide bit of aluminium should suffice for a total of three aerials.

I welcome comments on what I'm doing wrong or for flaws in my plan 

[Keithvinning]

This antenna will be used for the P3I part of the PAW.

No this antenna is tuned for 1090 so is not suitable for the 869.5MHz of PilotAware P3I. It will be Ok for the 1090 in though.

[PaulSS]

Hi Keith,

The P3I antenna to which I was referring is this one:

http://www.gps.co.uk/antenna-exterior-gav-868-flarm/p-0-2024/

It's almost impossible to find data on this aerial but the 868 and the fact that it is a Flarm antenna leads me to believe it will be okay for P3I.

However, I'm always willing to learn and if I've cocked it up then Harry will have a return.......IF they ever actually send it.

[Keithvinning]

I can't see how this will be any different than the one that is 1/10 of the price from PilotAware hardware.com. I would try that first.

[PaulSS]

The original question:

Has anyone installed in a EuroFOX mounting external antenna

I've looked on the PilotAware website, Keith, but I can't find any external antennas on there. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to send me a link in case I'm looking in the wrong place but I have searched.

[Keithvinning]

The original question:

Has anyone installed in a EuroFOX mounting external antenna

I've looked on the PilotAware website, Keith, but I can't find any external antennas on there. Perhaps you'd be kind enough to send me a link in case I'm looking in the wrong place but I have searched.

Hi the external antenna is this.

http://pilotawarehardware.com/product/tuned-monopole-whip/

It will need a ground plane which is just a piece of aluminium sheet. You will already have one for your airband radio and transponder

[Ian Melville]

Not sure that one is weatherproof?