Author Topic: ADSB receiver dongle  (Read 62307 times)

Sean McDonald

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2016, 09:40:01 pm »
Thanks Brinzlee, I'll be keen to hear how you get on.

Sean

I ordered one last week for another project.....It's in transit with UPS.....I'll let you know if it works with PAW when it arrives.....Certainly looks well made and hopefully will address the issues of porting some of that heat away from its main chipset.

Sean McDonald

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2016, 09:45:35 pm »
These are the only chips I understand I'm afraid. The rest is gobbledegook to me



Probably will! I'm assuming you techies know what definitely won't work!

Yes, TV dongles with something other than the R2832U interface chip won't work. Most tuner chips will work to some degree, though I've personally got one with an E4000 which is fairly deaf at ADS-B frequencies, but it does work, just (it's good for higher frequencies than the R820T though, so has its uses). Anything with the R2832U interface chip and the R820T tuner chip should work ok, including the new (as the above linked unit uses) R820T2 chip which is more sensitive.

exfirepro

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2016, 10:05:58 pm »
Hi Sean,

When it comes to chips, Paul definitely knows his onions..... Sorry, this is starting to get silly  ::)

Regards

Peter

Ian Melville

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2016, 10:50:07 pm »
Sean, those are fries :)

Paul_Sengupta

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2016, 12:26:03 am »
Sean - just that if it has R2832U and R820T in the name or description, 99% it'll work. Probably 100%, but y'know, I don't like to say such things! ;D

"Scampi flavoured what...?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsrNAAtjmKw
« Last Edit: September 21, 2016, 12:28:50 am by Paul_Sengupta »

Sean McDonald

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2016, 11:22:36 am »

exfirepro

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #21 on: September 26, 2016, 09:55:12 am »
I've kept using a mini dongle myself as I've put an SMA connector on it, but....

You can also get "premium" R820T dongles with SMA connectors. They're normally used for other SDR (Software Defined Receiver) work, but I don't see why they won't work with a PilotAware.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_odkw=r820t+sm&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xr820t+sma.TRS0&_nkw=r820t+sma&_sacat=0

Hi Paul/All,

Intrigued as always, I ordered one of these 'Premium' dongles for testing, complete with set of antennas from Paul's  'NooElec'' e-Bay link.      Mysteriously,........ it arrived yesterday (Sunday) afternoon .... from AMAZON!!!!!, though the order definitely only appears on my e-Bay account!

I tried it last night at home and can report that it seems to work fine with PAW, though I did experience some 'dropping out' on SkyDemon of ADSB aircraft inbound to Edinburgh - which was probably due to geographical (terrain) interference rather than any problem with the dongle.

Like the 'supplied' dongle, it does run fairly hot, though in this case because it deliberately uses its aluminium casing as a 'heat sink' to dissipate heat from the receiver chip.

The biggest problem, however is that, as I suspected, the dongle is much 'thicker' than the mini version and completely precludes the use of the USB port above (or below) it in the Raspberry Pi

In view of the increasing likelihood that this port will be needed for USB updating or connecting to FLARM in or for ADSB out, this would preclude the use of this dongle unless you don't intend to use any of these functions.


Another lesser concern is that the supplied antenna lead (if you buy the version with the antenna pack) uses RG58 coax, which is considerably heavier and stiffer than the coax supplied with the 'standard' dongle. As a result of this and the fact that the dongle itself is longer/heavier, I noticed significant 'loading' on the USB socket and have some concerns that the dongle could become separated from the USB socket in flight unless it can be adequately supported. The answer might be to 'glue' it into the socket using a couple of 'dabs' of silicone sealant and/or ensure the coax is supported as it leaves the unit to take the load off the dongle/USB socket. Alternatively, if you can use a lighter co-ax,  the risk of accidental disconnection will be lower. This does not however address the loss of one of the USB sockets if this dongle is used.

A great pity, as it otherwise looks like a well made unit. Out of interest, I will give it a test in the plane anyway and will report back further once I manage to do so.

Regards

Peter
« Last Edit: September 26, 2016, 10:28:45 am by exfirepro »


exfirepro

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #23 on: September 26, 2016, 03:00:22 pm »
Hi Paul,

Point taken!

Peter

Richard W

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #24 on: September 26, 2016, 07:26:58 pm »
Just ordered two

Arcticash

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2016, 07:29:36 am »
Morning guys,
I ordered one of the linked USB-ADSB things from NooElec (R820T2) to try and tidy up my set-up however in testing i'm finding it rather less sensitive than the mini cheapo ebay one I had before, have any of you found this?

Trying to work out if its a faulty receiver, a faulty antennae (I ordered the 1090MHz ADS-B tuned SMA one from NooElec http://www.nooelec.com/store/1090mhz-ads-b-antenna-3dbi-sma.html - should i have gone for the 5DBi gain one?) or just a worse set up than the "cheap mini" recommended one!

Any thoughts? for now i'm just using the more expensive cooler running receiver for a FlightRadar feed :)

Ash

brinzlee

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2016, 12:09:48 pm »
I'm using one of the dipoles from the pilotawarehardware store very slightly different to your setup
http://pilotawarehardware.com/product/dipolecouplet-antenna/
I know it's not exactly the correctly tuned antenna for the job with the NooElec but I haven't noticed any difference in degradation of signal compared with the  standard ADSB usb dongle....Same with the heat...it gets just as hot.....

Paul_Sengupta

Re: ADSB receiver dongle
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2016, 12:46:47 pm »
I get aircraft from as far away as Belgium and occasionally the Netherlands here in Guildford with one of these on a standard R820T dongle modified with an SMA connector.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171802354206