Wifi connected but nothing on 192.168.1.1

[MrSaratoga]

So this is strange: I have in front of me an iphone and 2 ipads.  All are connected via Wifi to the same PAW, show sufficient reception, and the PAW works fine with battery/cable/etc.  All are on the browser and 192.168.1.1.  The iphone shows the home screen, one ipad does, the other doesn't ("server stopped responding" after a while).
The problem is not even the ipads are consistent, the one that is showing the home screen now failed to show it last time in the aircraft.  Couldn't get it to connect on 192.168.1.1, and SkyDemon also couldn't connect.
Any trick to get the connection working?  ANything people have seen getting in the way?

[Admin]

Hi

Which version PilotAware are you running ?
What is the PilotAware hardware platform ?

Thx
Lee

[MrSaratoga]

As recent as it gets I guess: PAW classic, version was 20160530, updated yesterday but no change.  Iphone5/ipads are Mini 1 and Mini 2, ios 9.3.2.
Baffled as everything is as it should be, and clearly the PAW is working.  Just one or the other ipad decide not to play ball at the last second.  And once they don't connect on 192... I've not gotten them to connect even with the usual tricks (wifi off/on, clear cache, reboot, etc etc).

[Admin]

So can we clarify if this is a multi-device issue or not, are you able to connect one
of your devices and access the web pages and run SkyDemon ?

Has this worked previously with mutiple-devices ?

Also I know you are confident of the battery being used, but can I ask what it is ?

And finally, you are running 20160708 ?

Edit:
Just re-reading your post, and I am not clear on the following.
your title says "WiFi connected, but nothing on 192.168.1.1", so are you
saying that all of your devices show up as connected to the PilotAware HotSpot,
ie - you received no messages to the effect of "unable to connect to ....."
But you cannot access any services, either the
- HTTP web server,
- SkyDemon ?

Thx
Lee

[MrSaratoga]

ok, re multi-device: currently the iphone and one ipad work alone and together; the other ipad doesn't work alone and doesn't while the others are working; yes 2 devices in parallel was and is working
battery is an Anker power bank (again, it's working with that battery on one iphone and 1 ipad)
yes 20160708
re nothing on 192...: when it's working it's working as intended (ie home page etc on 192.168.1.1, Skydemon shows traffic etc)
when it's not then:
 - ipad does connect as Wifi to the PAW hot spot (ie on the ios Wifi details page you see the DHCP on PAW allocating an IPaddr, subnet mask shows normal 255.255.255.0 and router shows 192.168.1.1)
 - when I start Safari and enter http://192.168.1.1 the progress bar moves about an inch, then stops, after about 60secs there's an errors msg "could not open .. server stopped responding"
 - SkyDemon shows the "waiting to connect to external device" window then also stops after 60secs with an error msg (and yes, it's the same SkyDemon config that's on the other ipad where everything is working as intended)
 - you didn't ask but no, it's not the ipad as last time I had exactly the same stubborn behaviour on the ipad that's now happily showing the traffic pages and SkyDemon (that's why it doesn't help to just go with the ipad that works now, because I'll be sitting in the aicraft next time and it may just not work that time)

yes the home Wifi router is also on 192.168.1.1 but that should be off when I selected the PAW hot spot, and the IP addr changes when it logs into the PAW

I have compared every page I can find on both ipads to see any difference, but can't find anything ... beats me what's going on ...

[MrSaratoga]

ran the working ipad in "logging" while the other came up, essentially 2 messages
 - "await radio startup", roughly every second,
 - "recv_pthread(): Broken pipe", came up 3 times

On the home page all green, under "navigation" it shows "0 devices", all green except amber on "TRX(RXTX)" with status "TX=0, RX=0, CRFAIL=0";
ah, FILESYS Mount  RO and RW just came up, radio ok, now also green, and another broken pipe alert (4mins in after reboot); navigation is still "connected 0 devices", and the other ipad still doesn't connect on 192.1.68.1.1

[MrSaratoga]

classic, just tried again and I can't repeat the fault; all booting and connecting fine; aargh
well, here are the logs as it runs up; no broken pipes this time but a weird "FS CORRUPT 2"

[exfirepro]

ran the working ipad in "logging" while the other came up, essentially 2 messages
 - "await radio startup", roughly every second,
 - "recv_pthread(): Broken pipe", came up 3 times

On the home page all green, under "navigation" it shows "0 devices", all green except amber on "TRX(RXTX)" with status "TX=0, RX=0, CRFAIL=0";
ah, FILESYS Mount  RO and RW just came up, radio ok, now also green, and another broken pipe alert (4mins in after reboot); navigation is still "connected 0 devices", and the other ipad still doesn't connect on 192.1.68.1.1

Hi Mr S,

I have been following your problem with interest as it is very similar to problems I was having with a recent engineering test version of Piloraware, which Lee has since resolved.

Thr TRX light not being green is normal until the PAW gets a gps fix and starts transmitting, so I wouldn't be concerned about that, though I can't remember ever seeing it Amber - usually red then straight to green. Similarly 'Navigation connected 0 devices' is normal until you actually start your nav programme after connecting the pad to PAW, so unlikely to be significant.

I see from your later post that it has started working, but you will still be worrying about reliability -as will Lee. I'm sure he will want to get to the bottom of what has been going on here so please keep letting us know how things go.

Regards

Peter

[Admin]

I must admit your report has me a little perplexed regarding the cause.

I would very much appreciate if you could try to reproduce the problems you mentioned,
and if you can, I think we should probably get your unit returned for investigation.

The only time I have seen anything remotely similar to this, is when a micro-SD card corruption had occured,
but then I recall it was reproducible, and not an intermittent issue as you have reported.

 

The screenshots you have supplied, show a normal startup, with SKYDEMON being connected as file
descriptor 14, you can ignore some of the strange messages such as

expr: syntax error
du: cannot access

these are irrelevent

[MrSaratoga]

Lee - I'm as perplexed as you are; the same problem happened today on a flight.  Ipad and iphone both connect on the wifi, but only the iphone would show the home page on 192.168.1.1 and show traffic; the ipad doesn't show the home page and Skydemon can't connect.  It happened on different ipads, so I'm also running out of ideas.  When it works this is clearly an amzing piece of technology, but this is taking the fun out of it.
Can we try a new hardware?  Where do you want me to send the kit?