SOLVED(x2)! - Skydemon connection

[daveb]

At my wits end!
Setting up PAW a breeze, well done guys!
Trying to get Skydemon to talk to it from my Android tablet a nightmare.
Press " Go Flying" and it just sits there with the message "Please wait while a connection is established to your external device".
Tablet WiFi connected to the PAW.
Tried the power supply fixes, 2amp Anker power monkey, 1.8amp mains supply.
Can someone help me (in simple terms please) with what I'm doing wrong?

Cheers

Dave

[SteveN]

Have you selected FLARM and set the air connect key to 6000 in Skydemeon's connectivity options?

[daveb]

Flarm - Yes, Connection Key - 6000 No.
Thanks,  I didn't know about the connection key, it was defaulted to 1234.

[exfirepro]

Dave,

1234 was the default set by SkyDemon to connect to FLARM via the ButterfyConnect (now known as AirConnect) wi-fi unit. As Steve has indicated, for PilotAware this needs to be set to 6000.

WWIW, Airconnect /SD have apparently changed from the default to a code specific to each wifi unit, though I could never get mine to work on any of their codes. (Part of the reason I sent my PowerFLARM system back in favour of PilotAware).

Regards and welcome to the 'fold'

Peter

[Mike Mold]

Gents,
I have a PAW/SkyDemon connection issue I hope you can help me with.
I've just fired up my new PAW Classic and having logged into the 192.168.1.1 link, I've established that my PAW is seeing satellites and traffic (that I've cross-checked on FR24). I have connections to 2 Android tablets (N7-2012 & N7-2013) and an Android phone (MotoG), which have good wi-fi and satellite reception according to GPS Test and Wifi Analyser apps. Each has wi-fi set to PAW and SD connectivity set to FLARM with the 6000 key but on hitting "Go Flying" & "FLARM" they just come up with "Seeking GPS Satellites". This is both in the house and outside in the garden with a good view of the sky and compares with if I use "Go Flying" and "Use Local Services", i.e. the tablets' own GPSs, when they fire up almost immediately. Any advice gratefully received.
Mike

[Paul_Sengupta]

Is the green light flashing on the GPS, Mike?

If you go to the 192.168.1.1 homepage, under GPS is it showing 0 satellites? If so, maybe try a USB extension lead for the GPS, or use my alternate positioning of the dongles so the Wifi dongle isn't directly in line with the GPS.

[Admin]

Gents,
I have a PAW/SkyDemon connection issue I hope you can help me with.
I've just fired up my new PAW Classic and having logged into the 192.168.1.1 link, I've established that my PAW is seeing satellites and traffic (that I've cross-checked on FR24). I have connections to 2 Android tablets (N7-2012 & N7-2013) and an Android phone (MotoG), which have good wi-fi and satellite reception according to GPS Test and Wifi Analyser apps. Each has wi-fi set to PAW and SD connectivity set to FLARM with the 6000 key but on hitting "Go Flying" & "FLARM" they just come up with "Seeking GPS Satellites". This is both in the house and outside in the garden with a good view of the sky and compares with if I use "Go Flying" and "Use Local Services", i.e. the tablets' own GPSs, when they fire up almost immediately. Any advice gratefully received.
Mike

Hi Mike,

Can you please post a screenshot of the homepage 192.168.1.1 ?
Also when you say

in the house and in the garden

Can I check you are referring to the PilotAware, and not the tablet ?

Finally how long has PilotAware been up and running ?

Thx
Lee

[Mike Mold]

Paul/Lee, Thanks for the quick come-back.
I've had the PAW turned on for several hours, give or take with an on-off for switching to a mains USB supply when my external battery pack died (I'm using an iHarbort MS031 10000mAh pack).
The green light is indeed flashing and the 192 homepage listing for GPS shows satellites=0. Screenshot below. I've moved the GPS dongle to the upper middle socket without any difference.
I'm now getting very intermittent connection to the 192 homepage as it's dropping in & out.
tia, Mike

[Mike Mold]

And yes, I had both PAW and tablet outside. - Mike

[Admin]

Hi Mike,

At first glance, it looks suspicously like a power issue.
I notice 3 strange things

1. ADS-B - no new messages, note the (+0)
2. Pressure 987mb, where are you based this seems pretty low, or maybe right for your position ?
3. GPS (clearly as you identified)

Q. Can I confirm you are using the power lead which was supplied ?

Q. I read from the spec that iHarbort MS031 10000mAh is rated at 2.1A, was this used to power PilotAware alone, or was another device plugged in ?

Q. You are now using a mains USB supply, can you give some more information about its type andrating ?

Thx
Lee

[Mike Mold]

Lee,
I have to confess I mixed the supplied USB with a couple of others I had on my desk so I can't identify which one came with the PAW.
However, if you can identify yours by length, the 3 cables I have are 75cm (no markings), 90 cm (an Asus logo on the std USB plug but no other markings) and  one of 120 cm (High speed, E330859, style 2725 28AWG/2C/1P, Ft-1 ZM 80C & 30V).

Whilst I was using the new iHarbort MS031, bought specifically for this application, I had the PAW plugged into the 2.1A outlet but I also plugged my N7 into the 1.0A outlet when I went into the garden for about 30 minutes, until it went flat.

The mains USB source is an Asus 5.2v 1.35A single outlet plug with a 3 metre shielded cable (E314459) but otherwise to the same spec as the 120cm one above.
I appreciate your help.
thanks
Mike



 

[Mike Mold]

And I'm at 840ft amsl at Dunkeswell, E Devon.

[Mike Mold]

Cable conundrum solved - my wife had picked up the USB cable from my desk to recharge her phone. The red velcro JuiceBitz ties were the give-away!

[exfirepro]

Mike

I was just about to send you that information when i noticed your new post. The correct cable is essential to prevent power loss.

take it it is now working properly?

Regards

Peter

p.s.Maybe PAW Hardware will need to start selling red juicEbits velcro ties separately if they are proving so attractive to women, or we're going to keep losing our cables! 

[Admin]

Hi Mike,

Thanks for the updates.

OK, so the acid test, is to run PilotAware with the correct power cable, this is essential because this uses a power wire gauge of 20AWG, and please for the test, ensure it is only PilotAware connected to your 2.1A supply.

The 1.35A supply will just not be sufficient for the peak currents when the Transmitter kicks in, a very short pulse of about 6ms every ~2seconds

Please let us know how you get on Mike

And I'm at 840ft amsl at Dunkeswell, E Devon.

And that explains the Baro reading !

Thx
Lee